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    'Smoking' Bert Cooper is an interesting one to think about as well. As would James Toney.
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    Good post Daxx. Wouldn't take issue with much of what you say. I might argue that haye would beat Carlos de Leon. but thats about it.

    There are some more interesting match ups:

    Bob Foster - this would be great while it lasted. Both guys throw bombs but could also be vulnerable themselves. Haye was probably a better technician than Bob, due to his long and illustrious amateur career, so i would lean toward haye being the guy that landed first.

    Roy Jones Junior - another very good matchup. Haye would be by far the naturally bigger guy, but he would never have seen someone like Roy. Unlike Ruiz, haye would be dangerous throughout ...... a 50/50 pick-em for me.

    George Foreman (Part 1) - only joking, young George would crush Haye like a roach.

    Joe Frazier - Haye would be the bigger guy and unless he jumped on Joe early (Joe always started slowly, and haye is a quick starter and a good finisher), Frazier grinds him down and we see something a bit like the Carl Thompson fight with an exhausted and beaten up haye being stopped by the ref around the 9th
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    Good post Daxx. Wouldn't take issue with much of what you say. I might argue that haye would beat Carlos de Leon. but thats about it.

    There are some more interesting match ups:

    Bob Foster - this would be great while it lasted. Both guys throw bombs but could also be vulnerable themselves. Haye was probably a better technician than Bob, due to his long and illustrious amateur career, so i would lean toward haye being the guy that landed first.

    Roy Jones Junior - another very good matchup. Haye would be by far the naturally bigger guy, but he would never have seen someone like Roy. Unlike Ruiz, haye would be dangerous throughout ...... a 50/50 pick-em for me.

    George Foreman (Part 1) - only joking, young George would crush Haye like a roach.

    Joe Frazier - Haye would be the bigger guy and unless he jumped on Joe early (Joe always started slowly, and haye is a quick starter and a good finisher), Frazier grinds him down and we see something a bit like the Carl Thompson fight with an exhausted and beaten up haye being stopped by the ref around the 9th
    Foster was a great at light heavy but at heavy the greats crushed him still think Foster wins at cruiser.

    Forgot that Frazier would be smaller but still think he would be too much for Haye.
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    What about Wamba at Cruiser?

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    Good post Daxx. Wouldn't take issue with much of what you say. I might argue that haye would beat Carlos de Leon. but thats about it.

    There are some more interesting match ups:

    Bob Foster - this would be great while it lasted. Both guys throw bombs but could also be vulnerable themselves. Haye was probably a better technician than Bob, due to his long and illustrious amateur career, so i would lean toward haye being the guy that landed first.

    Roy Jones Junior - another very good matchup. Haye would be by far the naturally bigger guy, but he would never have seen someone like Roy. Unlike Ruiz, haye would be dangerous throughout ...... a 50/50 pick-em for me.

    George Foreman (Part 1) - only joking, young George would crush Haye like a roach.

    Joe Frazier - Haye would be the bigger guy and unless he jumped on Joe early (Joe always started slowly, and haye is a quick starter and a good finisher), Frazier grinds him down and we see something a bit like the Carl Thompson fight with an exhausted and beaten up haye being stopped by the ref around the 9th
    If we are stricktly going in prime years I think RJJ toys with Haye...Haye nwould be dangerous for sure but IMO Roy would mezmorize him and frustrate him to the point he just did what he wanted with Haye....I in no way can artionalize Haye being better then Toney was and Roy embaressed him....Foster is an interesting one for sure a fight that for me at CW would be a pick em but at HW Foster could not absorb the abuse...

    Frazier? I have to agree 100% on that one...Joe went to war with Ali a man many forget was bigger then Haye in his prime years and had very underrated power....Joe was never discouraged by him....I think the fact that Frazier just kept coming and coming would be Hayes downfall in that fight.....I just don't take Haye nas a mentally tough fighter...Maybe he is but he has not shown it to me yet....At least not against a a guy of Joes caliber and grit....Maybe that was a stupid statement because in truth how many fighters had those qualities that Joe had then?....

    Now Foreman?...Seriously are we to believe George last in there with the Hayemaker ...

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    On a more serious note would Haye be smart enough to have his affairs in order before getting in the ring with George?


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    Think Orlin Norris beats him. Holyfield via decapitation. IF Moorer would have gone Cruiser can see his accurate handspeed and straight power hurting Haye badly. Jirovs body work is some of the best division has seen and given Haye stamina lapses it could tell...but think Haye too fast and powerful for stationary and catchable Jirov. Toney at fit Cruiser, say vs Washington...totals Haye for tko. Shit call me loco...but I make Al Cole a 50-50 . Kid had a chin made of iron, long freakish range jab with nice right and workrate.
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