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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    cheers for feedback everyone
    i still think in the 1st holyfield fight that bowe would of had a good go @ any heavyweight in history!

    cant remember a fighter declining so quickly tho than bowe?
    Maybe Roy Jones. In the one fight he just made history by winning the heavyweight title and was being touted as one of the best ever. In his very next fight he was getting his ass kicked by Tarver. Then he got blown away in 2 rounds, then followed another Ko defeat and travelled to Australia and got blown away in a round. That decline was very rapid considering the heights he had hit only afew months prior.
    Well Roy's "Prime" lasted about 10 years, Bowe's "Prime" may have lasted 2-3 years...I think that's the point he's trying to make
    No doubt about it that Jones had a longer prime but in regards to declining quickly. It isnt going to happen much quicker than " superman vs Ruiz" then "washed up" vs Tarver

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    yeah RJJ decline was pretty quick, i think there is a link there between him & bowe as RJJ stepped upto heavy then lost the weight to fight tarver, bowe used to balloon up then drastic weight loss when fighting. so it maybe the weight loss that took it out of them both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago View Post
    yeah RJJ decline was pretty quick, i think there is a link there between him & bowe as RJJ stepped upto heavy then lost the weight to fight tarver, bowe used to balloon up then drastic weight loss when fighting. so it maybe the weight loss that took it out of them both?
    Agreed. Not many fighters can move down in weight at the end of their careers and be sucessful. Byrd was awful when he lost weight. Shane Mosley vs Margarito is an example of the contrary. Floyd obviously dropped down aswel after the Oscar win at light middle and Marquez was able to beat Kats after fighting at welter but in general weight loss is not good for an old fighter. Shane has gotta do it in his next fight and he's touching 40

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    The third Holyfield fight most people think gave Bowe brain damage, which lead to the two depressing fights with Golota.
    That's a possibility.

    After retirement Bowe entered the Army and then quit after just one day

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    I always thought that Bowe had all physical tools and skills to be an ATG HW. Clearly the guy just didn't have the spirit or durability to be a fighter....and he never saw twinkie he passed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post

    No doubt about it that Jones had a longer prime but in regards to declining quickly. It isnt going to happen much quicker than " superman vs Ruiz" then "washed up" vs Tarver

    Roy againts Tarver 1 was like 65% of Superman Roy ( Paz, Griffin ). and yet he still won. Though Tarver convinced the crowd that he won by impressing them in the last 15 secs of every round


    Roy againts Tarver 2, Glen Johnson, Green were like 20% of Superman Roy

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    No doubt about it that Jones had a longer prime but in regards to declining quickly. It isnt going to happen much quicker than " superman vs Ruiz" then "washed up" vs Tarver

    Roy againts Tarver 1 was like 65% of Superman Roy ( Paz, Griffin ). and yet he still won. Though Tarver convinced the crowd that he won by impressing them in the last 15 secs of every round


    Roy againts Tarver 2, Glen Johnson, Green were like 20% of Superman Roy
    its a shame when these great fighters get old and shot and continue fighting, imagine if RRJ had retired after the ruiz fight! his legacy would of been untouchable

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    I always thought that Bowe had all physical tools and skills to be an ATG HW. Clearly the guy just didn't have the spirit or durability to be a fighter....and he never saw twinkie he passed up.
    Agreed he had all the talent in the world. Holyfield said he punched him consistently the hardest of any fighter he fought which says a lot.
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    Bowe was a good fighter. Had all the tools to be great. Just had 2 problems. The first is he had bad eating habits. The man loved food. The second is the he was never truly in love with the sport of boxing. I believe he did it because once he found out he was good enough, what other job could he do that would make him that much money. I dont blame him for that. Ali loved boxing. Hopkins love boxing. Thats their identity. Bowe did not. He aint the only one. Did good for somebody who only liked what he did.

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    Riddick Bowe was a great inside fighter, but his outside fighting skills wern't great which is weird. Because of his size it should be the opposite.

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    Riddick Bowe was a great inside fighter, but his outside fighting skills wern't great which is weird. Because of his size it should be the opposite.
    That right there completely covers the entire problem. The United States Amateur Boxing coaches did a lot of fighters a disservice by training them the way they did. And in the pros Bowe got very little help in his corner.

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