hook video part 1 for Kimbo

[greynotsoold]

Youi're right- jab, right, that gets you in close for the hook. My thing with Frazier, the way he threw his hook- off the front foot- it killed his right hand. He became a one handed fighter, and, really, his hook wasn't all that because he didn't get his weight turned.

[iceman]

wow great posts and great discussion, i want to say i feel no one was critical, but they were all very good critiques of this vid, i liked a point or two, i tend to fight off my front foot which does hurt my right a lot,i think the discussion here is leading to some good technique. thanx everyone for your opinions

[nikola_ganchev]

Hmm about Frazier's left hook... I must disagree. He puts in every punch alot of "Body". See him pursuing someone. He bobs down(no no in the modern boxing for reasons that are above my comprehension) and when he goes up he initialise his hook of a perfect position. Second comming from so low gives him alot ot initial velocity thats why his hook are heavy even on long range. Then when he is squared to his oponent it is just beautiful. Not throwing the right hand in this situation is the best solution. What is the best counter for the left hook? Keeping this hand high(or in his case cocked to give an incline target) and play it safe!!! He don't need to be gridy

[donnydarkoIRL]

Youi're right- jab, right, that gets you in close for the hook. My thing with Frazier, the way he threw his hook- off the front foot- it killed his right hand. He became a one handed fighter, and, really, his hook wasn't all that because he didn't get his weight turned.

I was watching fighters from the 20's through to the 40's. The placed a lot of weight on the rear foot, for defensive purposes, but it allowed them to transfer weight brilliantly to the front foot when throwing a right.

Nikola-
With Frazier he did have a lot of body in his hooks, but I think that was natural. His body shape suited the left hook, really well.! But it was all off the front hip and it was never transfered back

[greynotsoold]

Hard to move with your weight too far forward. Do you remember Ike Quartey? If you came topwards him, like Vince Philips did, he threw really nice combinations...But his thing was his left jab- lots of power on it because he got his weight way up on his left foot. Kind of a problem because, from there, he couldn't throw a right hand. Also his opponents could move away from him because, to follow, he had to rock his weight back.
Which I guess has nothing at all to do with throwing a left hook...

[donnydarkoIRL]

I remember Quartey's jab.

I think it was everything to do with the hook;weight distribution that is.