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    Default Re: Cotto vs Mayorga - Top Rank Trailer

    To me Cotto got pretty Lucky against Mosley and Clotty with the decisions i thought he lost both. Also i think people are forgetting just how bad a beating he has taken form Margarito and Pac. He does not have the chin or the power of Oscar El and he also does not poses Oscars speed as well dude. So i am kinda of confused on why you are bringing up Oscar fight because they are not alike at all.

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    I rewatched the Spinks-Mayorga fight and had it a draw 113-113. The commentary was pretty biased (Chris Byrd/Haymon). The ref was kind of biased but Mayorga was holding and hitting. The things I didnt agree with was the deduction for hitting after the bell it wasnt that late, and the ref jumped in late. As soon as he got in Mayorga didnt throw. Spinks lunges in with the head anytime they got close and he gave some headbutts. Also that causes the ref to immediately break them, he was like Cortez with the breaks. Two "slips" that could have been knockdowns, especially the one in the 12th round where Mayorga clearly hit him with a body shot. Just because Cory was flopping around doesnt mean that its not a kd. If a guy is off balance and you hit him thats a knock down most of the time. One time he leans back so much that he falls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I rewatched the Spinks-Mayorga fight and had it a draw 113-113. The commentary was pretty biased (Chris Byrd/Haymon). The ref was kind of biased but Mayorga was holding and hitting. The things I didnt agree with was the deduction for hitting after the bell it wasnt that late, and the ref jumped in late. As soon as he got in Mayorga didnt throw. Spinks lunges in with the head anytime they got close and he gave some headbutts. Also that causes the ref to immediately break them, he was like Cortez with the breaks. Two "slips" that could have been knockdowns, especially the one in the 12th round where Mayorga clearly hit him with a body shot. Just because Cory was flopping around doesnt mean that its not a kd. If a guy is off balance and you hit him thats a knock down most of the time. One time he leans back so much that he falls.
    I'm glad we half way agree

    But you gave Spinks far too many rounds. I had him winning 2 rounds maybe 3. He makes Mayorga miss, but he never makes him PAY.

    Spinks would go on to later get gifts against Judah and Karmazin, no doubt because of his last name, but neither of those were nearly as bad as the decision he was given agasint Mayorga.

    Utter nonsense.

    Mayorga clearly knocked the man down at least twice.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I rewatched the Spinks-Mayorga fight and had it a draw 113-113. The commentary was pretty biased (Chris Byrd/Haymon). The ref was kind of biased but Mayorga was holding and hitting. The things I didnt agree with was the deduction for hitting after the bell it wasnt that late, and the ref jumped in late. As soon as he got in Mayorga didnt throw. Spinks lunges in with the head anytime they got close and he gave some headbutts. Also that causes the ref to immediately break them, he was like Cortez with the breaks. Two "slips" that could have been knockdowns, especially the one in the 12th round where Mayorga clearly hit him with a body shot. Just because Cory was flopping around doesnt mean that its not a kd. If a guy is off balance and you hit him thats a knock down most of the time. One time he leans back so much that he falls.
    I'm glad we half way agree

    But you gave Spinks far too many rounds. I had him winning 2 rounds maybe 3. He makes Mayorga miss, but he never makes him PAY.

    Spinks would go on to later get gifts against Judah and Karmazin, no doubt because of his last name, but neither of those were nearly as bad as the decision he was given agasint Mayorga.

    Utter nonsense.

    Mayorga clearly knocked the man down at least twice.
    The two rounds he was deducted in he won, so they were 9-9, and if you throw in one kd, it's a pretty clear win for Mayorga, but you gotta score it how the ref rules it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    To me Cotto got pretty Lucky against Mosley and Clotty with the decisions i thought he lost both. Also i think people are forgetting just how bad a beating he has taken form Margarito and Pac. He does not have the chin or the power of Oscar El and he also does not poses Oscars speed as well dude. So i am kinda of confused on why you are bringing up Oscar fight because they are not alike at all.
    seems you forgot that the beating he took from Margarito was most likely with loaded gloves and a broken nose from the 2nd round on, same play you put on Cotto not being like Oscar i can say on Mayorga being NOTHING like Margarito and much less Pacquiao, both guys have better boxing ability (although Margarito is limited), Pacquiao has blazing speed Mayorga doesn't, people are seriously starting to undersell or de-credit Cotto based on a fight he was cheated in, and a fight he fought with no corner, i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left
    Ricardo has taken some big beatings and takes them well, while still trying to knock his opponent out with everything he throws. Cotto against Margarito, skirted the ring for rounds until he found a space to take a knee.

    I dont think Cotto has as much fight in him as Mayorga. I think he will be surpried as to how hard mayorga hits and how strong he is and it will only be a matter of time before Cotto thinks to himself, that he doesnt really need to be in boxing any more and will probably just quit in the corner between rounds and only if Mayorga doesnt marraud him to the point the ref saves Cotto or peels him off the canvas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left
    Ricardo has taken some big beatings and takes them well, while still trying to knock his opponent out with everything he throws. Cotto against Margarito, skirted the ring for rounds until he found a space to take a knee.

    I dont think Cotto has as much fight in him as Mayorga. I think he will be surpried as to how hard mayorga hits and how strong he is and it will only be a matter of time before Cotto thinks to himself, that he doesnt really need to be in boxing any more and will probably just quit in the corner between rounds and only if Mayorga doesnt marraud him to the point the ref saves Cotto or peels him off the canvas.
    Mayorga never has been pounded by a guy wearing loaded gloves , and he flat out quit against DLH, looking up at Nady as if he were Jesus Christ himself, so get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    i've said it once and i'll say it again, he's going to surprise a lot of people this year with how much he still has left
    Ricardo has taken some big beatings and takes them well, while still trying to knock his opponent out with everything he throws. Cotto against Margarito, skirted the ring for rounds until he found a space to take a knee.

    I dont think Cotto has as much fight in him as Mayorga. I think he will be surpried as to how hard mayorga hits and how strong he is and it will only be a matter of time before Cotto thinks to himself, that he doesnt really need to be in boxing any more and will probably just quit in the corner between rounds and only if Mayorga doesnt marraud him to the point the ref saves Cotto or peels him off the canvas.
    Mayorga never has been pounded by a guy wearing loaded gloves , and he flat out quit against DLH, looking up at Nady as if he were Jesus Christ himself, so get over it

    Don't waste your breath. Ross has been labeling Cotto as a quitter since Day One, showing how little he knows about boxing. But he's pretty much alone in his claims... sort of like pissing in the ocean, to make an analogy. But maybe we SHOULD take our shots now... 'cause the little Hater will be nowhere to be seen come the day after the fight.

    Anybody who says he wishes the fighter gets into the ring with a shoulder injury/surgery still bothering him is not even a real boxing fan. He's just an annoying little hater with nothing useful to say.

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    For one thing El it was never proven that Margarito did jack shit and that does not change the fact that Cotto still took a beating. All i was saying is the beatings he took i think have taken there toll and then he moves up a weight class and fights a big puncher. Reason i bring up Cotto being nothing like Oscar is because he lacks his speed, his power and most important his chin. I am not picking anyone to win but to me this fight is kinda of a toss up depending on how the fighters show up.
    Last edited by Mr140; 01-23-2011 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    For one thing El it was never proven that Margarito did jack shit and that does not change the fact that Cotto still took a beating. All i was saying is the beatings he took i think have taken there toll and then he moves up a weight class and fights a big puncher. Reason i bring up Cotto being nothing like Oscar is because he lacks his speed, his power and most important his chin. I am not picking anyone to win but to me this fight is kinda of a toss up depending on how the fighters show up.
    I'm avoiding the slanging match in previous posts, but pretty much agree with all of this and Ross and Hulk have made their points too. Like you guys, I think Mayorga is a live opponent and if Cotto doesn't get the measure of him early then he's in for a long, long night. Cotto is not on the level of a prime Forrest nor as good as any of the fighters Mayorga has lost to in recent years. Plus he is no 154 pounder, even Foreman seemed to be bothering him in spurts. And no way have those poundings not taken a lot out of Cotto. He cuts easily and wilts down the stretch. I'm not so sure that he does have all that much left.

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