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    lets not also forget that the stoppage was slighlty controversial and there are strong cases to agrue it was slightly premature with Khan able to continue.

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    No way he was flopping around at nine, he got up but fell backwards. It was a legit stoppage. Did I just fall for it or you serious?


    Khan did well to ever get up from that punch, seeing as it "could have dropped an elephant"
    To be fair that's where Colombians get their power from. Urango, Torres and Prescott all punch elephants. All the time.
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    lets not also forget that the stoppage was slighlty controversial and there are strong cases to agrue it was slightly premature with Khan able to continue.

    rematch
    No way he was flopping around at nine, he got up but fell backwards. It was a legit stoppage. Did I just fall for it or you serious?


    Khan did well to ever get up from that punch, seeing as it "could have dropped an elephant"
    To be fair that's where Colombians get their power from. Urango, Torres and Prescott all punch elephants. All the time.
    Haha that's funny, and seriously just made me think; I don't ever recall seeing a Colombian fighter who didn't have at least respectable punching power, if nothing else. A lot of them obviously hit like trucks. Weird little piece of genetics there, the archetypal Colombian fighter is seemingly this lanky heavy handed potential spoiler type of guy. Lots of little upsets here and there where one will stop a touted young guy, but I can't think of any who've really stuck around and made noise? Or had any decent fundamentals to speak of? A solid resume? Makes you wonder if a more prosperous amatuer program in Colombia etc. would even matter, strikes me they are just by and large these freaky glass cannons

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    lets not also forget that the stoppage was slighlty controversial and there are strong cases to agrue it was slightly premature with Khan able to continue.

    rematch
    No way he was flopping around at nine, he got up but fell backwards. It was a legit stoppage. Did I just fall for it or you serious?


    Khan did well to ever get up from that punch, seeing as it "could have dropped an elephant"
    To be fair that's where Colombians get their power from. Urango, Torres and Prescott all punch elephants. All the time.
    Haha that's funny, and seriously just made me think; I don't ever recall seeing a Colombian fighter who didn't have at least respectable punching power, if nothing else. A lot of them obviously hit like trucks. Weird little piece of genetics there, the archetypal Colombian fighter is seemingly this lanky heavy handed potential spoiler type of guy. Lots of little upsets here and there where one will stop a touted young guy, but I can't think of any who've really stuck around and made noise? Or had any decent fundamentals to speak of? A solid resume? Makes you wonder if a more prosperous amatuer program in Colombia etc. would even matter, strikes me they are just by and large these freaky glass cannons
    It must be to do with the progression/amatuer system over there. I can think of similar examples which occur in other sports, where nationality seems to shape an athletes strengths and weaknesses.

    For example, football in England...

    Generally speaking, English footballers tend to be technically inferior to a lot of other European players. When i say 'English footballers' i generally mean the players who have made it as professional players. Technical ability in England isn't as easy to notice when you consider the playing conditions in junior and amateur football. Other factors become more important, such as strength and speed.

    I know it's unrelated to boxing and i'm not even sure myself where i'm going with this point.

    But yeah i agree with your assessment of generic Colombian fighters. I guess if they weren't boxers they'd be drug dealers anyway
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    lets not also forget that the stoppage was slighlty controversial and there are strong cases to agrue it was slightly premature with Khan able to continue.

    rematch
    No way he was flopping around at nine, he got up but fell backwards. It was a legit stoppage. Did I just fall for it or you serious?


    Khan did well to ever get up from that punch, seeing as it "could have dropped an elephant"
    To be fair that's where Colombians get their power from. Urango, Torres and Prescott all punch elephants. All the time.
    Haha that's funny, and seriously just made me think; I don't ever recall seeing a Colombian fighter who didn't have at least respectable punching power, if nothing else. A lot of them obviously hit like trucks. Weird little piece of genetics there, the archetypal Colombian fighter is seemingly this lanky heavy handed potential spoiler type of guy. Lots of little upsets here and there where one will stop a touted young guy, but I can't think of any who've really stuck around and made noise? Or had any decent fundamentals to speak of? A solid resume? Makes you wonder if a more prosperous amatuer program in Colombia etc. would even matter, strikes me they are just by and large these freaky glass cannons
    It must be to do with the progression/amatuer system over there. I can think of similar examples which occur in other sports, where nationality seems to shape an athletes strengths and weaknesses.

    For example, football in England...

    Generally speaking, English footballers tend to be technically inferior to a lot of other European players. When i say 'English footballers' i generally mean the players who have made it as professional players. Technical ability in England isn't as easy to notice when you consider the playing conditions in junior and amateur football. Other factors become more important, such as strength and speed.

    I know it's unrelated to boxing and i'm not even sure myself where i'm going with this point.

    But yeah i agree with your assessment of generic Colombian fighters. I guess if they weren't boxers they'd be drug dealers anyway
    That's not really a fair example though. Regardless of technicality, the English are obviously to small and weak to be good football players. Their strength and speed is only relative to people who share inferior genetics.

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    lets not also forget that the stoppage was slighlty controversial and there are strong cases to agrue it was slightly premature with Khan able to continue.

    rematch
    No way he was flopping around at nine, he got up but fell backwards. It was a legit stoppage. Did I just fall for it or you serious?


    Khan did well to ever get up from that punch, seeing as it "could have dropped an elephant"
    To be fair that's where Colombians get their power from. Urango, Torres and Prescott all punch elephants. All the time.
    Haha that's funny, and seriously just made me think; I don't ever recall seeing a Colombian fighter who didn't have at least respectable punching power, if nothing else. A lot of them obviously hit like trucks. Weird little piece of genetics there, the archetypal Colombian fighter is seemingly this lanky heavy handed potential spoiler type of guy. Lots of little upsets here and there where one will stop a touted young guy, but I can't think of any who've really stuck around and made noise? Or had any decent fundamentals to speak of? A solid resume? Makes you wonder if a more prosperous amatuer program in Colombia etc. would even matter, strikes me they are just by and large these freaky glass cannons
    Joel Julio and Antonio Pitalua are others that come to mind

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    Joel Julio and Antonio Pitalua are others that come to mind
    Edison Miranda too.

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    Khan should stop him, hes matured a lot since his loss. Prescott got lucky no doubt, if they cant agree for a fight with Murray then it's a keep busy fight for Khan and he will redeem his brutal KO loss, no harm in that.
    Yes of course it was luck. Prescott wasn't really trying to hit him. He was just swinging his arms for the fuck of it. Con just happened to run into his fist.

    Always amazes me how people can say one fighter got lucky when he knocks out another fighter. How the fuck is it luck? Isn't that why there swinging? To like, you know? Knock the muthafukka out?
    I agree in this case, but a fighter can get lucky. Take Micahel Sprott's KO of Audley a few years back. Twas a sweet as fuck shot, but Sprott had his head down, was looking at his feet and swinging for the fuck of it. The fact it landed on Audley's temple was a complete stroke of luck, because no way was his aim to land on that spot.
    But Sprott was still swing to hit something. His intentions were still to hurt or knock Harrison out.

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    Khan should stop him, hes matured a lot since his loss. Prescott got lucky no doubt, if they cant agree for a fight with Murray then it's a keep busy fight for Khan and he will redeem his brutal KO loss, no harm in that.
    Yes of course it was luck. Prescott wasn't really trying to hit him. He was just swinging his arms for the fuck of it. Con just happened to run into his fist.

    Always amazes me how people can say one fighter got lucky when he knocks out another fighter. How the fuck is it luck? Isn't that why there swinging? To like, you know? Knock the muthafukka out?
    I agree in this case, but a fighter can get lucky. Take Micahel Sprott's KO of Audley a few years back. Twas a sweet as fuck shot, but Sprott had his head down, was looking at his feet and swinging for the fuck of it. The fact it landed on Audley's temple was a complete stroke of luck, because no way was his aim to land on that spot.
    But Sprott was still swing to hit something. His intentions were still to hurt or knock Harrison out.
    You're right, he was...I was just looking at it from the other angle that sometimes a fighter lands a punch that they didn't necessarily mean to. The fact that it knocked the guy out had some degree of luck involved. I agree though, the term "lucky punch" is used far too loosely.

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    lets not also forget that the stoppage was slighlty controversial and there are strong cases to agrue it was slightly premature with Khan able to continue.

    rematch
    No way he was flopping around at nine, he got up but fell backwards. It was a legit stoppage. Did I just fall for it or you serious?


    Khan did well to ever get up from that punch, seeing as it "could have dropped an elephant"
    To be fair that's where Colombians get their power from. Urango, Torres and Prescott all punch elephants. All the time.
    Haha that's funny, and seriously just made me think; I don't ever recall seeing a Colombian fighter who didn't have at least respectable punching power, if nothing else. A lot of them obviously hit like trucks. Weird little piece of genetics there, the archetypal Colombian fighter is seemingly this lanky heavy handed potential spoiler type of guy. Lots of little upsets here and there where one will stop a touted young guy, but I can't think of any who've really stuck around and made noise? Or had any decent fundamentals to speak of? A solid resume? Makes you wonder if a more prosperous amatuer program in Colombia etc. would even matter, strikes me they are just by and large these freaky glass cannons
    It must be to do with the progression/amatuer system over there. I can think of similar examples which occur in other sports, where nationality seems to shape an athletes strengths and weaknesses.

    For example, football in England...

    Generally speaking, English footballers tend to be technically inferior to a lot of other European players. When i say 'English footballers' i generally mean the players who have made it as professional players. Technical ability in England isn't as easy to notice when you consider the playing conditions in junior and amateur football. Other factors become more important, such as strength and speed.

    I know it's unrelated to boxing and i'm not even sure myself where i'm going with this point.

    But yeah i agree with your assessment of generic Colombian fighters. I guess if they weren't boxers they'd be drug dealers anyway
    That's not really a fair example though. Regardless of technicality, the English are obviously to small and weak to be good football players. Their strength and speed is only relative to people who share inferior genetics.
    Haha fair point
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    Khan should stop him, hes matured a lot since his loss. Prescott got lucky no doubt, if they cant agree for a fight with Murray then it's a keep busy fight for Khan and he will redeem his brutal KO loss, no harm in that.
    Yes of course it was luck. Prescott wasn't really trying to hit him. He was just swinging his arms for the fuck of it. Con just happened to run into his fist.

    Always amazes me how people can say one fighter got lucky when he knocks out another fighter. How the fuck is it luck? Isn't that why there swinging? To like, you know? Knock the muthafukka out?
    no doubt he was but fair play to him he did KTFO amir khan but it was a lucky win in the sense that it wont ever happen again if they did fight. khan needed a brutal wake up call like that to show he wasnt invincible and has khan not improved dramatically since being with freddy and being stopped? i think so. khan prescott ever fight again khan would knock him out and prove that on that night prescott was lucky in beating him.

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