Haye vs rjj who wins?

[Gandalf]

Jones. Easily potshot the shit out of Haye for twelve rounds.

Same thoughts. Haye HASN'T beaten a decent HW yet. Jones Jr would dance around him and win all the rounds. Haye doesn't throw more than 30 punches a round, he wouldn't have worried Jones in the slightest.

Haye smashed to bits the only heavyweight Roy ever fought. You need a rethink.

Haye smashed to bits an ancient semi-retired version of a never particularly good Ruiz. It was a little bit like Calzaghe beating up on an ancient Roy Jones Jr. Ruiz was a shot fighter, but unlike Jones was never particularly good to begin with.

Haye hasn't won a meaningful fight at HW IMO, I really think Holyfield beat Valuev far more impressively than Haye did.

Right, so using your logic Roy has never fought a decent heavyweight either, so considering he's a 5'10, natural lightheavyweight who is totally unproven at heavyweight, it's stretching it a bit to think he could deal with a 6'3, naturally 30lbs heavier KO artist.

I mean if Lou DelValle can floor Roy then imagine what happens if Haye hits him. Frightening. Roy will be unconcious from a semi-clip. It's just logical. Fact.

The Jones Jr of several years ago was able to beat Ruiz without breaking a sweat. It's a possibility that Jones gets knocked out, but it's also quite possible that Jones outworks him for a decision. I am not sold on Haye as a HW and the Jones of yesteryear was quicker and seldom took a flush shot. Not saying your wrong as this is boxing, but Jones with all his speed and movement would be a tough fight for Haye.