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    Default Re: Let's re-examine Mayweather vs. Mosley for a sec.....

    Taeth, Shane Mosley is an extremely old man in boxing terms, could it not be just that Mosley is old? He looked crap prior to Margarito and has looked crap since. Could it not simply be that he waits too long and cannot pull on the trigger? The man is 40 years old for christs sake.

    Let's not pretend that a 30 year old Mosley could not have competed merrily with Floyd, he could have, but the shell that we have today has nothing. Even Oscar fought far better against Floyd. Mosley was breathing heavy against Cotto after 3 rounds, he did the same against Mayweather. It has nothing to do with adapting, Mosley is old.

    If Mosley could somehow stop Pac in his tracks I will rejoice, but let's not pretend that Mosley at 40 offers anything different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Taeth, Shane Mosley is an extremely old man in boxing terms, could it not be just that Mosley is old? He looked crap prior to Margarito and has looked crap since. Could it not simply be that he waits too long and cannot pull on the trigger? The man is 40 years old for christs sake.

    Let's not pretend that a 30 year old Mosley could not have competed merrily with Floyd, he could have, but the shell that we have today has nothing. Even Oscar fought far better against Floyd. Mosley was breathing heavy against Cotto after 3 rounds, he did the same against Mayweather. It has nothing to do with adapting, Mosley is old.

    If Mosley could somehow stop Pac in his tracks I will rejoice, but let's not pretend that Mosley at 40 offers anything different.

    Yeah... Mosley IS old. I hate that too, miles, 'cause I too like him a lot. He's always been a classy good guy in the world of boxing. Has given us a lot of exciting fights as well. We tend to think that, because the fat cows of the heavyweight division fight into their 50's, that other divisions can do that as well. But it's just not true. We try to hang on to our heroes and make believe age doesn't affect them... but deep inside we know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Taeth, Shane Mosley is an extremely old man in boxing terms, could it not be just that Mosley is old? He looked crap prior to Margarito and has looked crap since. Could it not simply be that he waits too long and cannot pull on the trigger? The man is 40 years old for christs sake.

    Let's not pretend that a 30 year old Mosley could not have competed merrily with Floyd, he could have, but the shell that we have today has nothing. Even Oscar fought far better against Floyd. Mosley was breathing heavy against Cotto after 3 rounds, he did the same against Mayweather. It has nothing to do with adapting, Mosley is old.

    If Mosley could somehow stop Pac in his tracks I will rejoice, but let's not pretend that Mosley at 40 offers anything different.

    Yeah... Mosley IS old. I hate that too, miles, 'cause I too like him a lot. He's always been a classy good guy in the world of boxing. Has given us a lot of exciting fights as well. We tend to think that, because the fat cows of the heavyweight division fight into their 50's, that other divisions can do that as well. But it's just not true. We try to hang on to our heroes and make believe age doesn't affect them... but deep inside we know better.
    It angers me, they could have fought Mosley 3 years ago. But only now do they fight him. I've got many fights wrong before, but I really hope that this is another. This more than most.

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    Default Re: Let's re-examine Mayweather vs. Mosley for a sec.....

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Taeth, Shane Mosley is an extremely old man in boxing terms, could it not be just that Mosley is old? He looked crap prior to Margarito and has looked crap since. Could it not simply be that he waits too long and cannot pull on the trigger? The man is 40 years old for christs sake.

    Let's not pretend that a 30 year old Mosley could not have competed merrily with Floyd, he could have, but the shell that we have today has nothing. Even Oscar fought far better against Floyd. Mosley was breathing heavy against Cotto after 3 rounds, he did the same against Mayweather. It has nothing to do with adapting, Mosley is old.

    If Mosley could somehow stop Pac in his tracks I will rejoice, but let's not pretend that Mosley at 40 offers anything different.

    Yeah... Mosley IS old. I hate that too, miles, 'cause I too like him a lot. He's always been a classy good guy in the world of boxing. Has given us a lot of exciting fights as well. We tend to think that, because the fat cows of the heavyweight division fight into their 50's, that other divisions can do that as well. But it's just not true. We try to hang on to our heroes and make believe age doesn't affect them... but deep inside we know better.
    It angers me, they could have fought Mosley 3 years ago. But only now do they fight him. I've got many fights wrong before, but I really hope that this is another. This more than most.

    Are you talking about Pac? 'Cause remember, he's only recently been coming up in weight. No way Pac fights Mosley 3 years ago. If you mean Floyd... then yeah, that fight could've happened a long time ago, and the results could've been MUCH different... in Mosley's favor, of course.

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    Default Re: Let's re-examine Mayweather vs. Mosley for a sec.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Taeth, Shane Mosley is an extremely old man in boxing terms, could it not be just that Mosley is old? He looked crap prior to Margarito and has looked crap since. Could it not simply be that he waits too long and cannot pull on the trigger? The man is 40 years old for christs sake.

    Let's not pretend that a 30 year old Mosley could not have competed merrily with Floyd, he could have, but the shell that we have today has nothing. Even Oscar fought far better against Floyd. Mosley was breathing heavy against Cotto after 3 rounds, he did the same against Mayweather. It has nothing to do with adapting, Mosley is old.

    If Mosley could somehow stop Pac in his tracks I will rejoice, but let's not pretend that Mosley at 40 offers anything different.

    Yeah... Mosley IS old. I hate that too, miles, 'cause I too like him a lot. He's always been a classy good guy in the world of boxing. Has given us a lot of exciting fights as well. We tend to think that, because the fat cows of the heavyweight division fight into their 50's, that other divisions can do that as well. But it's just not true. We try to hang on to our heroes and make believe age doesn't affect them... but deep inside we know better.
    It angers me, they could have fought Mosley 3 years ago. But only now do they fight him. I've got many fights wrong before, but I really hope that this is another. This more than most.

    Are you talking about Pac? 'Cause remember, he's only recently been coming up in weight. No way Pac fights Mosley 3 years ago. If you mean Floyd... then yeah, that fight could've happened a long time ago, and the results could've been MUCH different... in Mosley's favor, of course.
    Roach did suggest that the Pac/Mosley fight could happen but only if Mosley came down to a wondrous weight of 142 pounds. A long time ago, and of course Roach never wanted Manny to go anywhere near Mosley at the time.

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    Default Re: Let's re-examine Mayweather vs. Mosley for a sec.....

    After those right hands Mayweather was forced to fight at his best. When he fights at his best, no body comes close and he won the next 10 rounds with absolute brilliance. In fact those right hands probably did enough to save Shane being stopped later on because Floyd wanted to but those shots must have taken a lot to recover from and Floyd probably did not have it to step it up a little to stop Shane later on.
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    Default Re: Let's re-examine Mayweather vs. Mosley for a sec.....

    I saw a good video that broke down the adjustments Mayweather made after the 2nd round. Mosley hurt Mayweather with the left to the body followed by a right hand to the head, as Mayweather was open to that combination through his normal defensive stance. After Mayweather was hurt, Mosley shot his load trying to follow up and Mayweather landed some sneaky bodyshots to further take the wind out of him. Every time Mosley went for that same left to the body right to the head combination again, Mayweather would counter Mosley's left with a left hook, which stopped Mosley throwing/landing the right hand again. Couple that with Mosley's age (i.e being shot) and that's why he didn't follow up. Nothing really suspicious about it imo.

    I hope Mosley does well against Pacquiao, I really don't want to see him take a one sided beating and possibly get stopped. At the minute that's how I see it going, but I would love to be wrong so we get a competitive fight.

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    Default Re: Let's re-examine Mayweather vs. Mosley for a sec.....

    Or perhaps what you saw were the affects of Mosley being off the EPO?

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