Quote Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Great List CC!

BUT

If you say he didnt avenge losses, and you need to do that to be a great, Why is Oscar and Pernell Whittaker there?

(they are great I might add but they didnt avenge losses. Albeit Pernell was finished, but Oscar twice to Moseley, albeit again controversial, but still in the record books he lost, so in your words earlier, how can he be a great?)
Whitaker revenged the Ramirez defeat.

Oscar de la Hoya/Mosley were two excellent bouts, Mosley sneaked the first, DLH won the second

To be less flippant...

Redemption is not the only quality, all I ask is fighters show the quality. Whitaker showed it by rising from knockdowns to beat Mayweather and Vazquez, and showing despite being way past his best, he can compete with a de la Hoya.

de la Hoya has shown time and again you write him off at your own peril. He was meant to be the Golden Boy when he went the Olympics, and he has lived up to hype. Very few fighters can do that, indeed post 70 perhaps only Ray Leonard and Oscar have. I know the likes of Breland, Banks, Reid and Tarver have all failed, quite badly.

de la Hoya had the sort pressure on him from day one, that perhaps MAB only felt when he fought Junior Jones and the Mexicans were hoping he could become the new Chavez...