Pff look at Ali's trouble with a really old LIston who some thought was inbetween 35-40... Comparing Tyson to Foreman is just dumb... Tyson dodged punches, and punched when there are openings... Tyson is way more powerful, and a way quicker than Floyd Patterson ever was. Mike Tyson's technique was an improved Joe Frazier technique which made him perfect for beating Ali... Also Holmes always even in his later age had a better jab than Ali, and thats the only thing he used effectively vs. Tyson.