Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

[bzkfn]

you cant start saying - well you arent a proper world champ coz you only fought him or you arent a proper world champ coz this happened - who ever wins is world champ and the man to beat

I disagree entirely. If this was at Welterweight, for a Welterweight World title, then maybe I'd agree with you. However, for the second time in a row, rather than look at their list of contenders who are career light-middleweights, the WBC have bypassed them to sanction 2 pretty much career Welterweights (who's biggest wins have been at Welterweight) to fight for the 154lb title at a 150lb catchweight. Neither of these guys could be considered the man to beat at light-middle, because besides this fight they'll have proven nothing at the weight. The likes of Rhodes, Martirosyan, Angulo etc. have the right to be pissed off. What is the point of working your way up the rankings in that weightclass if you're just going to be bypassed by 2 guys who've proven nothing? It makes a complete mockery of the sport and the WBC should be ashamed of themselves.

[HattonTheHammer]

you cant start saying - well you arent a proper world champ coz you only fought him or you arent a proper world champ coz this happened - who ever wins is world champ and the man to beat

I disagree entirely. If this was at Welterweight, for a Welterweight World title, then maybe I'd agree with you. However, for the second time in a row, rather than look at their list of contenders who are career light-middleweights, the WBC have bypassed them to sanction 2 pretty much career Welterweights (who's biggest wins have been at Welterweight) to fight for the 154lb title at a 150lb catchweight. Neither of these guys could be considered the man to beat at light-middle, because besides this fight they'll have proven nothing at the weight. The likes of Rhodes, Martirosyan, Angulo etc. have the right to be pissed off. What is the point of working your way up the rankings in that weightclass if you're just going to be bypassed by 2 guys who've proven nothing? It makes a complete mockery of the sport and the WBC should be ashamed of themselves.

but that very scenario happens in a variety of sports

the winner of footies champions league, the outright winner of a golf/tennis major - there probably were/are better teams or players more deserving of the tournament itself but it just happens that the eventual winners become the ones that own the titles

if alvarez or hatton arent up to the task of being champion they will be found out in time, but either one deserves a chance to be the MAN in the division

[bzkfn]

but that very scenario happens in a variety of sports

the winner of footies champions league, the outright winner of a golf/tennis major - there probably were/are better teams or players more deserving of the tournament itself but it just happens that the eventual winners become the ones that own the titles

if alvarez or hatton arent up to the task of being champion they will be found out in time, but either one deserves a chance to be the MAN in the division

Yes but the outright winner of the Champions League in Football would have earned the right to win the title by beating other teams involved in the competition. Same with Tennis/Golf. Somewhere along the line, one of the other participants would have made a mistake in order for the eventual winner to be crowned champion.

In this scenario Alvarez & Matthew Hatton have done absolutely nothing to warrant a shot at a Light-Middleweight Title. They haven't beaten a top 10 contender at 154lbs. I wouldn't even say they should be first in line for a crack at a Welterweight Title. The fact that guys like Ryan Rhodes, who has been beating WBC Top Ten Ranked fighters for a while now is consistantly overlooked is just plain wrong. At least with Pacquiao, he was considered the best at Welterweight before moving up for a title shot.

[mafiajoey]

But hey if Arum and Pac want to do it's ok...lol If Oscar sends envelopes of cash then Arum must send suitcases

[erics44]

you cant start saying - well you arent a proper world champ coz you only fought him or you arent a proper world champ coz this happened - who ever wins is world champ and the man to beat

I disagree entirely. If this was at Welterweight, for a Welterweight World title, then maybe I'd agree with you. However, for the second time in a row, rather than look at their list of contenders who are career light-middleweights, the WBC have bypassed them to sanction 2 pretty much career Welterweights (who's biggest wins have been at Welterweight) to fight for the 154lb title at a 150lb catchweight. Neither of these guys could be considered the man to beat at light-middle, because besides this fight they'll have proven nothing at the weight. The likes of Rhodes, Martirosyan, Angulo etc. have the right to be pissed off. What is the point of working your way up the rankings in that weightclass if you're just going to be bypassed by 2 guys who've proven nothing? It makes a complete mockery of the sport and the WBC should be ashamed of themselves.

i hear what you are saying but it just doesnt work that way

manny fought for a light-middleweight title in his first light middleweight fight, his best win had been at light welterweight, and a catchweight a bit below welterweight, was he a worthy challenger?

if governing bodies stood around waiting for fights to be made things would get a whole lot more annoying for the fans

this fight is happening and it is an opportunity to get a worthy champ, nothing else is yet organised

[boxingbantz]

Anyone who can't see this is in wrong is in the minority. Everyone else can see it.

[erics44]

Anyone who can't see this is in wrong is in the minority. Everyone else can see it.

funny

did you take comedy lessons?

[boxingbantz]

Anyone who can't see this is in wrong is in the minority. Everyone else can see it.

funny

did you take comedy lessons?

I fail to see what is funny about this?

[erics44]

Anyone who can't see this is in wrong is in the minority. Everyone else can see it.

funny

did you take comedy lessons?

I fail to see what is funny about this?

that response was funny, soz if it wasnt meant to be

[TheMacMagician]

There is simply no way in hell that anyone can justify to me that Saul Alvarez (Welterweight) vs Matthew Hatton (Welterweight) should have a fight sanctioned for the WBC LM Belt. Its plain ridiculous.

Its like some athletics board putting out a 100m championship and letting a couple of 200m or 400m race for it when clearly there are plenty of racers at 100m that have been overlooked.

I mean, MATTHEW HATTON, fighting for a Light Middleweight World Title, can anyone possibly take that seriosuly. This shit is just spoiling a sport I really really love. This should be Angulo vs Ryan Rhodes or Erislandy Lara vs vanes Martirosyan, as examples. Come on.

Eric, surely you don't believe yourself on this one. And for me, Pacquiao absolutely should not have been fighting for the LM title, no way, and neither should Margarito. That was a farce and just an organisation GIVING Pacquiao another title to stroke his ego.....