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    Default Re: Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    There is simply no way in hell that anyone can justify to me that Saul Alvarez (Welterweight) vs Matthew Hatton (Welterweight) should have a fight sanctioned for the WBC LM Belt. Its plain ridiculous.

    Its like some athletics board putting out a 100m championship and letting a couple of 200m or 400m race for it when clearly there are plenty of racers at 100m that have been overlooked.

    I mean, MATTHEW HATTON, fighting for a Light Middleweight World Title, can anyone possibly take that seriosuly. This shit is just spoiling a sport I really really love. This should be Angulo vs Ryan Rhodes or Erislandy Lara vs vanes Martirosyan, as examples. Come on.

    Eric, surely you don't believe yourself on this one. And for me, Pacquiao absolutely should not have been fighting for the LM title, no way, and neither should Margarito. That was a farce and just an organisation GIVING Pacquiao another title to stroke his ego.....
    believe my self about what?

    like i said dude there are more deserving fighters yes, it doesnt mean that these two arent

    im gonna sit back watch it and enjoy it, and im definately not gonna complain about it

    all the way down the rankings people get fights that others deserve more

    crolla v watson for the british title last week, did crolla deserve that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    There is simply no way in hell that anyone can justify to me that Saul Alvarez (Welterweight) vs Matthew Hatton (Welterweight) should have a fight sanctioned for the WBC LM Belt. Its plain ridiculous.

    Its like some athletics board putting out a 100m championship and letting a couple of 200m or 400m race for it when clearly there are plenty of racers at 100m that have been overlooked.

    I mean, MATTHEW HATTON, fighting for a Light Middleweight World Title, can anyone possibly take that seriosuly. This shit is just spoiling a sport I really really love. This should be Angulo vs Ryan Rhodes or Erislandy Lara vs vanes Martirosyan, as examples. Come on.

    Eric, surely you don't believe yourself on this one. And for me, Pacquiao absolutely should not have been fighting for the LM title, no way, and neither should Margarito. That was a farce and just an organisation GIVING Pacquiao another title to stroke his ego.....
    believe my self about what?

    like i said dude there are more deserving fighters yes, it doesnt mean that these two arent

    im gonna sit back watch it and enjoy it, and im definately not gonna complain about it

    all the way down the rankings people get fights that others deserve more

    crolla v watson for the british title last week, did crolla deserve that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Fair play to Hatton, I don't think he's done too badly to get himself to European level, and made reasonable work of those put in front of him, and stepped up his game since Ricky went out of the picture. No doubt that Alvarez is in a different league, but Hatton's worked hard over recent years and deserves a nice paycheque for a fight, which will most likely see him try hard but eventually will be found to be out of his depth.

    As for Alvarez, it's clever management, but it's a world title in name only until he beats some real world class opposition.

    i agree with the first bit, hatton is more deserving than some who get a shot, perhaps not as deserving as ryan rhodes but how often do things ever go the fair way

    i dont agree with the second bit tho, it is a world title fight, both men deserve to be there and it will be more of a fight than most are saying

    you cant start saying - well you arent a proper world champ coz you only fought him or you arent a proper world champ coz this happened - who ever wins is world champ and the man to beat
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    You are absolutely shitting me aren't you Eric

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    i love the red highlighting, that must mean you reeeeeeaally mean it

    they deserve it, perhaps not as much as some but they deserve it

    just chill, sit back and enjoy it

    There are so many people post on this forum claim to be boxing fans who just complain and moan about it all the time
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    Default Re: Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i love the red highlighting, that must mean you reeeeeeaally mean it

    they deserve it, perhaps not as much as some but they deserve it

    just chill, sit back and enjoy it

    There are so many people post on this forum claim to be boxing fans who just complain and moan about it all the time
    Points for your mind don't seem to sink in too well so I thought I'd make it pretty clear to help.

    Anyways, in answer to the Crolla Watson question, thats different for sure, two weeks short notice, how many people would be ready at that time and want it.

    Ricky Burns: Super feather World Champ
    Stephen Foster: Super Feath Euro Champ

    Alex Arthur: No Idea wghere he's at
    John Murray: Lightweight Euro Champ
    Kevin Mitchell: This should have been him really if he wants back in the game
    Martin Gethin: Really
    Gary Buckland: New Super Feather Domestic Champ after smashing Sykes, got mauled last time round at lightweight.

    I mean, Crolla was about the best available I'd say, other than Micthell, who strikes me as the kind of guy that, unless he's been in camp for a while, he holds weight.....

    These points just can't be said about Hatton or Alvarez for a LM World Title shot. They just can't.

    Some always fly the flag for the very best of what we should be watching and entertained by. SUPER SIX is doing that at the moment, or intended to do that, and Showtime are also doing it with Mares Vic, Perez and Agbeko at Bantom. Other divisions such as LM should be ashamed of themselves when compared with these such divisions of boxing.

    This weekend i'll be mostly watching Donaire vs Montiel for a world title, and Mike Jones vs Soto Karass fighting it solid for rankings in a rematch.

    Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight World Title...........
    Last edited by TheMacMagician; 02-17-2011 at 02:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i love the red highlighting, that must mean you reeeeeeaally mean it

    they deserve it, perhaps not as much as some but they deserve it

    just chill, sit back and enjoy it

    There are so many people post on this forum claim to be boxing fans who just complain and moan about it all the time
    Points for your mind don't seem to sink in too well so I thought I'd make it pretty clear to help.

    Anyways, in answer to the Crolla Watson question, thats different for sure, two weeks short notice, how many people would be ready at that time and want it.

    Ricky Burns: Super feather World Champ
    Stephen Foster: Super Feath Euro Champ

    Alex Arthur: No Idea wghere he's at
    John Murray: Lightweight Euro Champ
    Kevin Mitchell: This should have been him really if he wants back in the game
    Martin Gethin: Really
    Gary Buckland: New Super Feather Domestic Champ after smashing Sykes, got mauled last time round at lightweight.

    I mean, Crolla was about the best available I'd say, other than Micthell, who strikes me as the kind of guy that, unless he's been in camp for a while, he holds weight.....

    These points just can't be said about Hatton or Alvarez for a LM World Title shot. They just can't.

    Some always fly the flag for the very best of what we should be watching and entertained by. SUPER SIX is doing that at the moment, or intended to do that, and Showtime are also doing it with Mares Vic, Perez and Agbeko at Bantom. Other divisions such as LM should be ashamed of themselves when compared with these such divisions of boxing.

    This weekend i'll be mostly watching Donaire vs Montiel for a world title, and Mike Jones vs Soto Karass fighting it solid for rankings in a rematch.

    Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight World Title...........
    which points havent sunk in dude?

    What seems to not sink in with you is, i believe both men deserve the chance although there are probably more deserving fighters, i dont think anyone believes they are the most deserving, but why are you getting so upset about it?

    ok crolla may have been a bad example, but are you telling me that everyone who gets every fight deserve it more than anyone else?

    As you mention Jamie moore he is a shining example of a fighter who deserved more in my opinion

    he rules britain for a few years and struggled to get a euro shot he should have got years before he did

    compare that to ricky burns, who has a short stint as british champ, not really beating anyone of note and then gets a world title shot

    not that i have anything against burns, he is a nice guy and totally deserves what he has got but there are a few boxers in history who's records say they perhaps deserved it more and didnt get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i love the red highlighting, that must mean you reeeeeeaally mean it

    they deserve it, perhaps not as much as some but they deserve it

    just chill, sit back and enjoy it

    There are so many people post on this forum claim to be boxing fans who just complain and moan about it all the time
    Points for your mind don't seem to sink in too well so I thought I'd make it pretty clear to help.

    Anyways, in answer to the Crolla Watson question, thats different for sure, two weeks short notice, how many people would be ready at that time and want it.

    Ricky Burns: Super feather World Champ
    Stephen Foster: Super Feath Euro Champ

    Alex Arthur: No Idea wghere he's at
    John Murray: Lightweight Euro Champ
    Kevin Mitchell: This should have been him really if he wants back in the game
    Martin Gethin: Really
    Gary Buckland: New Super Feather Domestic Champ after smashing Sykes, got mauled last time round at lightweight.

    I mean, Crolla was about the best available I'd say, other than Micthell, who strikes me as the kind of guy that, unless he's been in camp for a while, he holds weight.....

    These points just can't be said about Hatton or Alvarez for a LM World Title shot. They just can't.

    Some always fly the flag for the very best of what we should be watching and entertained by. SUPER SIX is doing that at the moment, or intended to do that, and Showtime are also doing it with Mares Vic, Perez and Agbeko at Bantom. Other divisions such as LM should be ashamed of themselves when compared with these such divisions of boxing.

    This weekend i'll be mostly watching Donaire vs Montiel for a world title, and Mike Jones vs Soto Karass fighting it solid for rankings in a rematch.

    Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight World Title...........
    which points havent sunk in dude?

    What seems to not sink in with you is, i believe both men deserve the chance although there are probably more deserving fighters, i dont think anyone believes they are the most deserving, but why are you getting so upset about it?

    ok crolla may have been a bad example, but are you telling me that everyone who gets every fight deserve it more than anyone else?

    As you mention Jamie moore he is a shining example of a fighter who deserved more in my opinion

    he rules britain for a few years and struggled to get a euro shot he should have got years before he did

    compare that to ricky burns, who has a short stint as british champ, not really beating anyone of note and then gets a world title shot

    not that i have anything against burns, he is a nice guy and totally deserves what he has got but there are a few boxers in history who's records say they perhaps deserved it more and didnt get it
    To be honest Eric, I think we should move on, arguing is not my thing. You made the point that BOTH MEN ARE DESERVING OF THE SHOT, you had been arguing it, so I made it VERY clear with type at point size 5 in red that you are bang wrong. End of..... Just wanted that point to sink in with a clear and concise message.. No sweats

    On the flip side and moving on a little. Maybe Golden Boy could delay this fight till April 9th and have it as chief support to the Light Welterweight World Title fight that is Marcos Maidana vs Erik Morales, with the crowd all laughing in unison at the total shit that GBP are throwing at the boxing public these days.

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    Default Re: Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post

    To be honest Eric, I think we should move on, arguing is not my thing. You made the point that BOTH MEN ARE DESERVING OF THE SHOT, you had been arguing it, so I made it VERY clear with type at point size 5 in red that you are bang wrong. End of..... Just wanted that point to sink in with a clear and concise message.. No sweats

    On the flip side and moving on a little. Maybe Golden Boy could delay this fight till April 9th and have it as chief support to the Light Welterweight World Title fight that is Marcos Maidana vs Erik Morales, with the crowd all laughing in unison at the total shit that GBP are throwing at the boxing public these days.
    i am right dude, im just not that hung up about it

    another moan is that in your second paragraph? really man you need to chill a bit

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    Default Re: Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i love the red highlighting, that must mean you reeeeeeaally mean it

    they deserve it, perhaps not as much as some but they deserve it

    just chill, sit back and enjoy it

    There are so many people post on this forum claim to be boxing fans who just complain and moan about it all the time
    There are plenty of people who enjoy sex, doesn't mean they won't moan like f*** if they were raped does it? Boxing fans want to see the best fight the best. We want competative fights and we want to see people earn their chance, not push in the queue. Anyone who advocates otherwise is stating that they are happy with the bullshit we're constantly fed from this sport. The actual boxing is what we're a fan of, it's the politics we're moaning about.

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    Default Re: Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

    What a p*** take this fight is, Carnt fault Hatton for taking it tho not his fault he is been offered a chance to fight for a world title even if it is at a different weight to which he has been fighting at.

    Ryan Rhodes must be sick of the wbc by now.There are fighters at light middleweight who deserve the chance to fight for the title more than Alvarez and Hatton.

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    I'm sure this is still a cover up and we'll see Pac vs Hatton for Pacs title

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