Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
First off i apolagise because i no this thread has been done to death so many times already. But here we are yet again.

Ok, the reason I just brought this up again is because obviously its such a hot topic. But the real reason is I've been watching Pacquiaos past dust ups down at the lighter weights against the marquee names such as morales, barrera and marquez. And to be honest to this day i feel hes the same fighter, same style,same tenacity, but just more polished (hence the way he doesnt get as wreckless when he feels he has someone hurt) and of corse this is an improvement, but this is understood because of his work with the seems to be great coach Freddie Roach over time.

Heres where the so called p.e.ds come in. If u look at compubox stats (questionable i no) his punch output in the higher weights (lightweight plus) is higher than his lower weight reign (superfeather and below). And yeah it does seem very strange how a Pacman alot heavier can have higher output than a lowerweight Pacman and even still carry his powerup in weight and even still seem to improve on that power. When people see this (and yes i have been one of them) this cannot be, this man MUST be taking something.

My own personal thoughts on the matter after some research, hence my sister bein a sports nutritionist, and having more insight onto the moving up in weight and carrying the power and speed at the same time and even improving on this are as follows: Pacquiao must have been starving himself at some point during training camp at the lighterweights and it would of to a degree limited his true potential as a fighter. And where hes moved up thru the weights his overall food intake and natural growth has increased his performance as a fighter (hence the greater compubox stats).This is very feasable, but not all fighters are the same in this respect.

In closing this analogy i would like to finish up saying that i really, truly believe we are dealing with a truly special once in a lifetime fighter in Manny Pacquiao.And that im not 100% sure but pretty certain that what this man has done and is continuing to do is biologically feasable, and i do think he is free of any p.e.d.s and all his work is natural and God given.

Once again apolagies too anybody who is sick to death of this topic, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the matter.

Hey dude, jus my 2cents on the matter...

I actually agree with most of what u say, I do believe Pac is clean. He is just a naturally gifted athlete. And you're rite, this issue has been spoken about on so many occasions because I feel the arguments are on so many different levels.

Pacfans n Pachaters throw out their opinions, other athletes from other sports even have an opinion not just on Pac but boxings drug testing program, the biggest reason I feel this is a debateable topic is because most feel this was the reason the biggest fite in our boxing history didn't take place. Mayweather wanted Pac to do the Olympic style testing, Pac declined, and the fite was off.

As I said earlier, I agree with your analysis especially with ya sis being a nurtionist and all that, BUT the question a lot will ask about the Pac on P.E.Ds issue especially the Pachaters is that Y din Pac just take the test?!?! On pride?!? On principles?!? Coz those were his excuses rite? He pretty much delcined to take the tests coz they were Floyd's demands... I am a Pac fan but boy I wish he did just take the tests.

However there is an old saying "a man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything", and if that is Pac's stance on Floyd demanding the tests then in a way u gota respect that too rite?

So as far as this argument goes we end up back where we started, tossing around theories, opinions, even insults at each other (haha)... But worst of all, we still end up with NO PAC V MAYWEATHER!!!