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    Default Re: how would sergio martinez fare against pacquiao/mayweather??

    Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
    I think Martinez beats them both, as long as it's not below 155. He has some speed, and the one punch power to drop both of them. Both Pac and Floyd don't have enough power to do any real damage to him, and Martinez boxing skills can hang around with both of them. He also has about a 4" height advantage over Pac, and about 2 " on Floyd, and i think he will be too big for both of them.
    How can you say they don't have the power to do real damage to him? Pacquiao badly hurt Margarito, turned Clottey into a punching bag, and dropped Cotto. Floyd made both Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley feel his power. People don't realize that smaller guys can still hurt bigger opponents even if they can't take them out. It's like saying Martinez wouldn't be able to hurt Pavlik because he was a natural 154 pounder or welterweight and Pavlik was a really big middleweight.

    I still don't think Martinez for the most part is a big puncher, I think one in a thousand shots he lands might be enough to ko Floyd or Pacman, but the likelihood of him landing one of those punches that neither of these guys see is unlikely.

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    Default Re: how would sergio martinez fare against pacquiao/mayweather??

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
    I think Martinez beats them both, as long as it's not below 155. He has some speed, and the one punch power to drop both of them. Both Pac and Floyd don't have enough power to do any real damage to him, and Martinez boxing skills can hang around with both of them. He also has about a 4" height advantage over Pac, and about 2 " on Floyd, and i think he will be too big for both of them.
    How can you say they don't have the power to do real damage to him? Pacquiao badly hurt Margarito, turned Clottey into a punching bag, and dropped Cotto. Floyd made both Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley feel his power. People don't realize that smaller guys can still hurt bigger opponents even if they can't take them out. It's like saying Martinez wouldn't be able to hurt Pavlik because he was a natural 154 pounder or welterweight and Pavlik was a really big middleweight.

    I still don't think Martinez for the most part is a big puncher, I think one in a thousand shots he lands might be enough to ko Floyd or Pacman, but the likelihood of him landing one of those punches that neither of these guys see is unlikely.
    I don't believe Pacquiao is big enough to fight the best middleweight in the world. P4P he is better but he is too small for Martinez. He reached his limit at 150, which is why he has opted to go back down to 147 to fight Mosley. His team would sign up to fight Martinez if they had the same confidence you had. Instead, they decided to fight Shane Mosley and I bet Juan Manuel Marquez in his next fight. We can agree on the fact that Shane right now at 147 and Marquez right now at 147 are easier fights for Pacquiao than Sergio Martinez above 155. Right? Anyway, Sergio is #3/4 p4p in the world on most people's lists and Shane isn't even on lists. He isn't a bigger name either.

    Floyd fought effectively at 154 against Oscar, which is why I'm hesitant to say that Martinez is too big for him.

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    Default Re: how would sergio martinez fare against pacquiao/mayweather??

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
    I think Martinez beats them both, as long as it's not below 155. He has some speed, and the one punch power to drop both of them. Both Pac and Floyd don't have enough power to do any real damage to him, and Martinez boxing skills can hang around with both of them. He also has about a 4" height advantage over Pac, and about 2 " on Floyd, and i think he will be too big for both of them.
    How can you say they don't have the power to do real damage to him? Pacquiao badly hurt Margarito, turned Clottey into a punching bag, and dropped Cotto. Floyd made both Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley feel his power. People don't realize that smaller guys can still hurt bigger opponents even if they can't take them out. It's like saying Martinez wouldn't be able to hurt Pavlik because he was a natural 154 pounder or welterweight and Pavlik was a really big middleweight.

    I still don't think Martinez for the most part is a big puncher, I think one in a thousand shots he lands might be enough to ko Floyd or Pacman, but the likelihood of him landing one of those punches that neither of these guys see is unlikely.
    Yes pac hurt Margs, whos is a slow come straight forward fighter. We can all agree Clottey didn't come to fight, and he was never hurt in the fight. He just stood there and covered up. And yes he dropped a past his prime Cotto. This is not to take anything away from Pac, he came in and took care of business. Cotto and Clottey probably came in fight night around 155 and margs probably 160. Now come fight night with Martinez he's probably going to be 170 lbs. And from his last few fights Pac is only rehydrating a few pounds, and is struggling to make the limit for that matter. So a 150 lb Pac vs a 170 lb Martinez...i got Martinez any day. just too big for Manny to do any damage. But if anybody was to prove me wrong it would be Pac.

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    Default Re: how would sergio martinez fare against pacquiao/mayweather??

    I think at his proper weight he beats them both. Neither has faced one that big with mix of speed, agility and mix of power and confidence.

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    Default Re: how would sergio martinez fare against pacquiao/mayweather??

    None of them have faced an unorthodox, "Pandora's box" opponent like Sergio Martinez. Oh yeah, Mayweather did fight Augustus way back and, like everyone else, had some trouble with him. As for Pacquiao, I don't think he's fought anyone who throws away the textbook in style.
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