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I think Martinez beats them both, as long as it's not below 155. He has some speed, and the one punch power to drop both of them. Both Pac and Floyd don't have enough power to do any real damage to him, and Martinez boxing skills can hang around with both of them. He also has about a 4" height advantage over Pac, and about 2 " on Floyd, and i think he will be too big for both of them.
How can you say they don't have the power to do real damage to him? Pacquiao badly hurt Margarito, turned Clottey into a punching bag, and dropped Cotto. Floyd made both Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley feel his power. People don't realize that smaller guys can still hurt bigger opponents even if they can't take them out. It's like saying Martinez wouldn't be able to hurt Pavlik because he was a natural 154 pounder or welterweight and Pavlik was a really big middleweight.

I still don't think Martinez for the most part is a big puncher, I think one in a thousand shots he lands might be enough to ko Floyd or Pacman, but the likelihood of him landing one of those punches that neither of these guys see is unlikely.
I don't believe Pacquiao is big enough to fight the best middleweight in the world. P4P he is better but he is too small for Martinez. He reached his limit at 150, which is why he has opted to go back down to 147 to fight Mosley. His team would sign up to fight Martinez if they had the same confidence you had. Instead, they decided to fight Shane Mosley and I bet Juan Manuel Marquez in his next fight. We can agree on the fact that Shane right now at 147 and Marquez right now at 147 are easier fights for Pacquiao than Sergio Martinez above 155. Right? Anyway, Sergio is #3/4 p4p in the world on most people's lists and Shane isn't even on lists. He isn't a bigger name either.

Floyd fought effectively at 154 against Oscar, which is why I'm hesitant to say that Martinez is too big for him.