Mike Tyson: UFC has surpass boxing and its more entertaining

[VictorCharlie]

I was a big boxing fan for years and while I still follow the sport it has been overtaken by MMA as my favorite combat sport for two reasons. 1. Whether it was Pride, UFC or Strikeforce, they made the fights I wanted to see for the most part and in a timely manner. Outside of competing orgs I can't think of many times where a fight needed/should happen and didn't. 2. I know entertainment is subjective and obviously I am going to lean to MMA b/c I train in submission grappling but I feel I get more bang for my $50 when I buy a MMA PPV versus a boxing. It is a minimum of 5 televised fights and I am usually very interested in more than half of them where with boxing I feel pretty lucky if I am interested in anything other than the main event.

[No Contest]

Mike is one of those guys who pays most of his attention to the heavyweights. Yeah if you go by heavyweights boxing is boring as fuck right now. UFC is alright, they are making the fights people want to see. Boxing seems more like a bunch of protected trash talkers who would rather say they are the best than go out and prove it. I dont know if its just the promoters or what, but I would like to see more of the best fighting the best. I am also sick of seeing guys win close decisions or bad decisions then taking forever to rematch. Also the judging in ufc seems alot more impartial. These homecooked decisions are really killing boxing. UFC has way less weight classes, and you dont see them bitching about a few pounds here or there. I still like boxing by far, but it needs to get back to its roots.

[Fenster]

Why would Tyson or any non-hardcore boxing fan know who Montiel and Donaire are? Neither are superstar names outside the hardcore. They sold 3000 tickets and split $600,000 (Donaire $350,000, Montiel $250,000).

Absloute peanuts compared with many a LESSER fighter in the sport. The smaller men have never been big news (with a few exeptions of course).

If Tyson said he didn't know who Mayweather or Pacquiao were, then boxing would have a problem.

[generalbulldog]

Why would Tyson or any non-hardcore boxing fan know who Montiel and Donaire are? Neither are superstar names outside the hardcore. They sold 3000 tickets and split $600,000 (Donaire $350,000, Montiel $250,000).

Absloute peanuts compared with many a LESSER fighter in the sport. The smaller men have never been big news (with a few exeptions of course).

If Tyson said he didn't know who Mayweather or Pacquiao were, then boxing would have a problem.

It's not just the smaller fighters. I remember in '09 after Haye just become "world" HW champion after beating Valuev and your own British network BBC or something like that asked him what he thought of Haye, he said he doesn't know who he was.

Of course just a few months ago when he sat down with Johnny Nelson he gave his own opionion if Haye could beat the Klits or not. So now he knows.

[Fenster]

Why would Tyson or any non-hardcore boxing fan know who Montiel and Donaire are? Neither are superstar names outside the hardcore. They sold 3000 tickets and split $600,000 (Donaire $350,000, Montiel $250,000).

Absloute peanuts compared with many a LESSER fighter in the sport. The smaller men have never been big news (with a few exeptions of course).

If Tyson said he didn't know who Mayweather or Pacquiao were, then boxing would have a problem.

It's not just the smaller fighters. I remember in '09 after Haye just become "world" HW champion after beating Valuev and your own British network BBC or something like that asked him what he thought of Haye, he said he doesn't know who he was.

Of course just a few months ago when he sat down with Johnny Nelson he gave his own opionion if Haye could beat the Klits or not. So now he knows.

You've got that mixed-up. Tyson was on a speaking tour in Britain around the time Haye fought Valuev and was asked numerous times about the fight, giving Haye advice on beating a giant and stuff.

However, I too remember Tyson saying he doesn't know who Haye was at one time. Which is perfectly understandable. The cruiser division has never been a glamour divison. So why would any non-hardcore American fan know a Britsh cruiserweight operating in Europe? Or a young British heavyweight?

Same thing as Donaire/Montiel. It doesn't matter how highly regarded you are as a boxer, If you are not in multi-million dollar matches, packing out Vegas casinos with famous celebs littered all over ringside, you wont be known outside the American hardcore. And just because Tyson is a former fighter it doesn't mean he still follows the sport.

[0james0]

Tyson now collects pidgeons. Seriously.

I read an article recently about how he loves them and they are his prized possesions. I think the guy is losing the plot a little.

[Fenster]

Tyson has famously been into pigeons since he was a kid. He once beat up a load of big kids for messing with his pigeons.. so the story goes

[generalbulldog]

Why would Tyson or any non-hardcore boxing fan know who Montiel and Donaire are? Neither are superstar names outside the hardcore. They sold 3000 tickets and split $600,000 (Donaire $350,000, Montiel $250,000).

Absloute peanuts compared with many a LESSER fighter in the sport. The smaller men have never been big news (with a few exeptions of course).

If Tyson said he didn't know who Mayweather or Pacquiao were, then boxing would have a problem.

It's not just the smaller fighters. I remember in '09 after Haye just become "world" HW champion after beating Valuev and your own British network BBC or something like that asked him what he thought of Haye, he said he doesn't know who he was.

Of course just a few months ago when he sat down with Johnny Nelson he gave his own opionion if Haye could beat the Klits or not. So now he knows.

You've got that mixed-up. Tyson was on a speaking tour in Britain around the time Haye fought Valuev and was asked numerous times about the fight, giving Haye advice on beating a giant and stuff.

However, I too remember Tyson saying he doesn't know who Haye was at one time. Which is perfectly understandable. The cruiser division has never been a glamour divison. So why would any non-hardcore American fan know a Britsh cruiserweight operating in Europe? Or a young British heavyweight?

Same thing as Donaire/Montiel. It doesn't matter how highly regarded you are as a boxer, If you are not in multi-million dollar matches, packing out Vegas casinos with famous celebs littered all over ringside, you wont be known outside the American hardcore. And just because Tyson is a former fighter it doesn't mean he still follows the sport.

Really? Tyson was on a tour in Britain giving Haye advice on how to beat Valuev? It's kind of funny that in this clip at the 1:02 mark he doesn't know who Haye is? 3 or 4 days before Haye fought Valuev. So if he doesn't know who Haye is, how can he give advice to him to beat Valuev?



Come on now, for years I've been hearing from his fans and his countrymen that this guy is the next ATG HW legend that will restore not only the HW division but the sport to it's great past. You know Jack Dempsey/Joe Louis/Muhammad Ali kind of popularity and glory.

It's kind of strange that a past HW great hasn't even heard of the guy 3 or 4 days before he fights for the WBA HW title?

[Fenster]

Why would Tyson or any non-hardcore boxing fan know who Montiel and Donaire are? Neither are superstar names outside the hardcore. They sold 3000 tickets and split $600,000 (Donaire $350,000, Montiel $250,000).

Absloute peanuts compared with many a LESSER fighter in the sport. The smaller men have never been big news (with a few exeptions of course).

If Tyson said he didn't know who Mayweather or Pacquiao were, then boxing would have a problem.

It's not just the smaller fighters. I remember in '09 after Haye just become "world" HW champion after beating Valuev and your own British network BBC or something like that asked him what he thought of Haye, he said he doesn't know who he was.

Of course just a few months ago when he sat down with Johnny Nelson he gave his own opionion if Haye could beat the Klits or not. So now he knows.

You've got that mixed-up. Tyson was on a speaking tour in Britain around the time Haye fought Valuev and was asked numerous times about the fight, giving Haye advice on beating a giant and stuff.

However, I too remember Tyson saying he doesn't know who Haye was at one time. Which is perfectly understandable. The cruiser division has never been a glamour divison. So why would any non-hardcore American fan know a Britsh cruiserweight operating in Europe? Or a young British heavyweight?

Same thing as Donaire/Montiel. It doesn't matter how highly regarded you are as a boxer, If you are not in multi-million dollar matches, packing out Vegas casinos with famous celebs littered all over ringside, you wont be known outside the American hardcore. And just because Tyson is a former fighter it doesn't mean he still follows the sport.

Really? Tyson was on a tour in Britain giving Haye advice on how to beat Valuev? It's kind of funny that in this clip at the 1:02 mark he doesn't know who Haye is? 3 or 4 days before Haye fought Valuev. So if he doesn't know who Haye is, how can he give advice to him to beat Valuev?



Come on now, for years I've been hearing from his fans and his countrymen that this guy is the next ATG HW legend that will restore not only the HW division but the sport to it's great past. You know Jack Dempsey/Joe Louis/Muhammad Ali kind of popularity and glory.

It's kind of strange that a past HW great hasn't even heard of the guy 3 or 4 days before he fights for the WBA HW title?

That video proves that i'm 100% right. BEFORE Haye fought Valuev (you said AFTER) Tyson became aware of Haye. Tyson even starts giving him advice in that video. Plus he did about a million interviews with different TV and media outlets, not just SKY, so obviously got asked about Haye-Valuev a million times.

As i've already explained - there is NOTHING strange at all about Tyson not knowing who he was. The general British public were only just latching on to him.

It's funny how you KNOW so many Haye fans that claim he is so great considering the man himself admits he'll NEVER be regarded among the greats.

Here's some advice, son - stop taking notice of teenagers and wind-up merchants