UFC 127 - who's tuning in?

**donnydarkoIRL** · 03-01-2011 04:51 PM

I'm not condoning what Bisping did- as a matter of fact I have been a primary detractor from Bisping in many instances, but I really do feel that Rivera instigated and fueled this entire situation.

**VictorCharlie** · 03-04-2011 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Trueno

I'm not condoning what Bisping did- as a matter of fact I have been a primary detractor from Bisping in many instances, but I really do feel that Rivera instigated and fueled this entire situation.

I got no issue with pre-fight trash talking. I really don't pay much attention to it but to me when the fight is over and you've got the victory show some class. If you really think the guy is a dirtbag then just ignore him. You've won for crying out loud do you really need to act like a teenager to feel better about it?

**Mattyhitman** · 03-04-2011 02:10 PM

Word has it that now Sonnens suspension is up, then a fight with Bisping and him is on the cards! Mike will struggle with takedown defence, but his BJJ is of a good standard and underated imo. Bisping hangs with Chael in standup without a doubt, it's just the groundwork that will trouble Mike if this fight happens.

I would see this fight being the next big card to hit the UK, alternatively he beats Sonnen stateside then, gets a title shot against Silva in the UK.

**Captain America** · 03-04-2011 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mattyhitman

Word has it that now Sonnens suspension is up, then a fight with Bisping and him is on the cards! Mike will struggle with takedown defence, but his BJJ is of a good standard and underated imo. Bisping hangs with Chael in standup without a doubt, it's just the groundwork that will trouble Mike if this fight happens.

I would see this fight being the next big card to hit the UK, alternatively he beats Sonnen stateside then, gets a title shot against Silva in the UK.

I see a lopsided UD for Sonnen, he had 3 10-8 rounds against the champ (the first 3). Bisping's a talented fighter, he's earned his spot in the top 10, but there's a HUGE gap between him and the top of the division.

**Captain America** · 03-07-2011 12:40 AM

I saw the video yesterday, Rivera said words to the effect of "You know Mike, 80% of all Koalas in Australia have [an STD, I forget which one]. So be careful Mike"

Bisping's girl is Aussie, so he clearly meant that as an insult to her. That's bullshit, he crossed the line with that one. But it still wasn't all Bisping made it out to be, either. Everything else Rivera said was about Bisping's fight style, and thus fair game.

**donnydarkoIRL** · 03-07-2011 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Captain America

I saw the video yesterday, Rivera said words to the effect of "You know Mike, 80% of all Koalas in Australia have [an STD, I forget which one]. So be careful Mike"

Bisping's girl is Aussie, so he clearly meant that as an insult to her. That's bullshit, he crossed the line with that one. But it still wasn't all Bisping made it out to be, either. Everything else Rivera said was about Bisping's fight style, and thus fair game.

Tbh it was a pretty good insult really.
He was playing on the koala's image as "hangers on." I thought it was quite clever, wrong, but clever

I think there were 5-6 vids originally??

He should've been more mindful of his actions after the Daley controversy .

**bzkfn** · 03-07-2011 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Trueno

Tbh it was a pretty good insult really.
He was playing on the koala's image as "hangers on." I thought it was quite clever, wrong, but clever

I think there were 5-6 vids originally??

He should've been more mindful of his actions after the Daley controversy .

The Daley thing was bollocks. I don't think it's ok to hit a man after the bell, unless it's Josh Koscheck.

**VictorCharlie** · 03-05-2011 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Mattyhitman

Word has it that now Sonnens suspension is up, then a fight with Bisping and him is on the cards! Mike will struggle with takedown defence, but his BJJ is of a good standard and underated imo. Bisping hangs with Chael in standup without a doubt, it's just the groundwork that will trouble Mike if this fight happens.

I would see this fight being the next big card to hit the UK, alternatively he beats Sonnen stateside then, gets a title shot against Silva in the UK.

I agree with Captain on this. Hopefully it happens and I will give your boy big props if he can beat Chael.

**donnydarkoIRL** · 03-06-2011 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

I got no issue with pre-fight trash talking. I really don't pay much attention to it but to me when the fight is over and you've got the victory show some class. If you really think the guy is a dirtbag then just ignore him. You've won for crying out loud do you really need to act like a teenager to feel better about it?

I dunno man...
When a guy randomly starts disrespecting your family, partner and associates you get pretty pissed.

Personally I think I would've been incensed with the way Rivera acted...

**VictorCharlie** · 03-06-2011 02:58 AM

Trueno,

I'm not really up to speed on who said what about who and maybe Rivera is a complete dirtbag that needed to be humbled, but if I'm a world recognized MMA star I'd want to be seen as someone who both wins and loses with class. I'm not saying his actions equate to Bablu's holding the choke or Daley's bitch move but Dana has shown that if you don't respect the Octagon he will give you your walking papers. If Bisping really felt that the line was crossed and that he needed to vent, then wait till he isn't being watched by millions of mma fans across the world. Even if his actions were completely justified, to most fans who don't follow every instance of pre-fight trash talking he looked like an immature punk.

**donnydarkoIRL** · 03-06-2011 03:06 AM

Understood Sir. And for the most part I do agree. I'm not arguing that what Bisping did wasn't wrong. For a sport that is still struggling to become globally acceptable and is not even legal in all of the United states, this sort of poor publicity is unacceptable.

However, my point is, if Bisping is to be penalised I believe Rivera should suffer some consequences also. He actively sought out attention through Youtube and social networking sites to damage the reputation of Bisping and his family. Surely this brings MMA and the UFC in particular into disrepute also...