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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by carpetrepairhouston View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!

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    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
    THey aren't retarded, they didn't even test Mayweather or mosley within like 3 weeks of the fight. And so what if a needle goes into a vein? The blood loss would be minimal even for a fighter trying to lose weight which is what Mosley not Pacquiao would be doing. In fact Mosley said during the 24/7 that it would have been easier for him to take a blood test instead of a urine test before he headed to vegas. That was because he was pretty dehyrdated.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
    Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.

    Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
    Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.

    Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
    You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
    Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.

    Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
    You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?

    It doesn't matter. Start the argument at the start. It is down to the athlete to prove they are clean. Clean athletes who have nothing to hide will happily take tests. That's where the argument starts. And with me it's also where it ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
    Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.

    Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
    You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?

    It doesn't matter. Start the argument at the start. It is down to the athlete to prove they are clean. Clean athletes who have nothing to hide will happily take tests. That's where the argument starts. And with me it's also where it ends.
    Are you trying to convince yourself that Manny Pacquiao is a cheater? Oh Wait, my bad, don't answer that. We all already know that one. Lol.

    The better question is this: Had the Mayweather camp never made their groundless claims that Manny is on steroids, or "power pellets" as Floyd said in his ignorant video, would you or anyone else even remotely think that Manny ever cheated? Again, it's a safe assumption to think that you would say that you always had your suspicions. Am I right? Well then, taking the Mayweather camp's defamatory claims out of the equation, please Hornfinger, provide hard evidence that would support your suspicions of Manny's cheating ways. And don't use the "he ran from testing" crap because that is as lame an excuse as any. I'm talking about hard evidence like the Mosely roid scandals. Name any single person (like Conte) or any roid association (like Balco) that would link to Team Pacquiao.

    FYI, Pacquiao agreed to Mayweather's first demand. Then Mayweather refuses. They then again ask for another one. And they denied the second negotiation never happened. What does that tell you?

    Floyd is scared!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    This just in. God I hope this is it.





    Read more... http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/03/03/11/pacquiao-adviser-confirms-new-talks-floyd-camp


    I hope Floyd won't pussy out again.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?

    It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.

    Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
    Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.

    Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
    You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?

    It doesn't matter. Start the argument at the start. It is down to the athlete to prove they are clean. Clean athletes who have nothing to hide will happily take tests. That's where the argument starts. And with me it's also where it ends.
    Are you trying to convince yourself that Manny Pacquiao is a cheater? Oh Wait, my bad, don't answer that. We all already know that one. Lol.

    The better question is this: Had the Mayweather camp never made their groundless claims that Manny is on steroids, or "power pellets" as Floyd said in his ignorant video, would you or anyone else even remotely think that Manny ever cheated? Again, it's a safe assumption to think that you would say that you always had your suspicions. Am I right? Well then, taking the Mayweather camp's defamatory claims out of the equation, please Hornfinger, provide hard evidence that would support your suspicions of Manny's cheating ways. And don't use the "he ran from testing" crap because that is as lame an excuse as any. I'm talking about hard evidence like the Mosely roid scandals. Name any single person (like Conte) or any roid association (like Balco) that would link to Team Pacquiao.

    FYI, Pacquiao agreed to Mayweather's first demand. Then Mayweather refuses. They then again ask for another one. And they denied the second negotiation never happened. What does that tell you?

    Floyd is scared!
    I don't need to convince my self. It is down to pacquiao to prove he is clean. No one can prove this guy is clean. When ever he get's an oppotunity to prove he's clean he runs from it.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by carpetrepairhouston View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!
    I disagree, as it's been said Pac many times has a problem and really dislikes needles. Mayweather doesn't at all, and while it isn't a hugely big deal everyone is different and bodies/minds react differently.
    And now with all the hype and press around it, there would be the whole mental disadvantage.

    It's silly, they should just get on with it.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by ukboxingwatcher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by carpetrepairhouston View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!
    I disagree, as it's been said Pac many times has a problem and really dislikes needles. Mayweather doesn't at all, and while it isn't a hugely big deal everyone is different and bodies/minds react differently.
    And now with all the hype and press around it, there would be the whole mental disadvantage.

    It's silly, they should just get on with it.
    Dislikes needles?? The man has multiple tattoo's he can't dislike needles that much!!

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    I believe Arum, Roach and Pacman already told everybody that they are willing to do Blood test if NSAC or the State sanctioning commission will impose it, and not just because someone will put it on the terms of the fight, just like what Money May wanted to do. NSAC stood by its regulation not to do blood testing for any of it commissioned fights, thats where when USADA came into picture.

    Pacman camp then agreed for the USADA-imposed tests but they asked for a window of originally 24 days. Mayweather then asked it to be 14. The talks collapse then.
    On the 2nd negotiation, pacman and his camp already agreed to do the test inside the 14 day window which Money May asked for, but this time Money is asking tests up to the fight.

    Looking at what happen to Mosley and Money, they never had test inside 3 weeks.

    I think Pacman should take the test for the sake of making this fight happen.
    But I do not think Mayweather will stop there. He will ask for insane demands that will eventually kill the fight. With all the criminal cases being lined up to him, I guess he had all the exits secured. He can stay out of pacman fight and be able to make an argument about his "greatness"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dench View Post
    I believe Arum, Roach and Pacman already told everybody that they are willing to do Blood test if NSAC or the State sanctioning commission will impose it, and not just because someone will put it on the terms of the fight, just like what Money May wanted to do. NSAC stood by its regulation not to do blood testing for any of it commissioned fights, thats where when USADA came into picture.

    Pacman camp then agreed for the USADA-imposed tests but they asked for a window of originally 24 days. Mayweather then asked it to be 14. The talks collapse then.
    On the 2nd negotiation, pacman and his camp already agreed to do the test inside the 14 day window which Money May asked for, but this time Money is asking tests up to the fight.

    Looking at what happen to Mosley and Money, they never had test inside 3 weeks.

    I think Pacman should take the test for the sake of making this fight happen.
    But I do not think Mayweather will stop there. He will ask for insane demands that will eventually kill the fight. With all the criminal cases being lined up to him, I guess he had all the exits secured. He can stay out of pacman fight and be able to make an argument about his "greatness"
    No he will not!

    The glove size could be a pontential problem too. I see Floyd demanding big supersoft type of gloves for his girlie brittle hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dench View Post
    I believe Arum, Roach and Pacman already told everybody that they are willing to do Blood test if NSAC or the State sanctioning commission will impose it, and not just because someone will put it on the terms of the fight, just like what Money May wanted to do. NSAC stood by its regulation not to do blood testing for any of it commissioned fights, thats where when USADA came into picture.

    Pacman camp then agreed for the USADA-imposed tests but they asked for a window of originally 24 days. Mayweather then asked it to be 14. The talks collapse then.
    On the 2nd negotiation, pacman and his camp already agreed to do the test inside the 14 day window which Money May asked for, but this time Money is asking tests up to the fight.

    Looking at what happen to Mosley and Money, they never had test inside 3 weeks.

    I think Pacman should take the test for the sake of making this fight happen.
    But I do not think Mayweather will stop there. He will ask for insane demands that will eventually kill the fight. With all the criminal cases being lined up to him, I guess he had all the exits secured. He can stay out of pacman fight and be able to make an argument about his "greatness"
    No he will not!

    The glove size could be a potential problem too. I see Floyd demanding big supersoft type of gloves for his girlie brittle hands.
    I do agree, Money always use a sizable pair of gloves, for two reasons I think: 1. they protect floyd's hands from his recurring injury. There were news they usually numb it with a pain reliever too. 2. those huge gloves can help floyd to cover his face. When he roll that shoulder he always keeps his hand on his chin and the other hand down for an impending counter punch. That adds up to his defense I guess.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Who cares! ?

    If it's not testing, it's "Money", if it's not the Money, it's the "Venue", If it's not the venue, it's an "Injury", If it's not an injury, it's "______" fill in the blank. "It goes on and on and on, on and on." it's like a fuk'n rap song.....

    This drama will not be over, even when the signature is on the bottom line. They are both drama queens and attention whores. The only difference between the two is their character. One is humble about it while the other is boastful. The crap is so thick, even a mask won't help.

    There ain't no solution!

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