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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

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    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!
    I disagree, as it's been said Pac many times has a problem and really dislikes needles. Mayweather doesn't at all, and while it isn't a hugely big deal everyone is different and bodies/minds react differently.
    And now with all the hype and press around it, there would be the whole mental disadvantage.

    It's silly, they should just get on with it.
    Dislikes needles?? The man has multiple tattoo's he can't dislike needles that much!!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    I believe Arum, Roach and Pacman already told everybody that they are willing to do Blood test if NSAC or the State sanctioning commission will impose it, and not just because someone will put it on the terms of the fight, just like what Money May wanted to do. NSAC stood by its regulation not to do blood testing for any of it commissioned fights, thats where when USADA came into picture.

    Pacman camp then agreed for the USADA-imposed tests but they asked for a window of originally 24 days. Mayweather then asked it to be 14. The talks collapse then.
    On the 2nd negotiation, pacman and his camp already agreed to do the test inside the 14 day window which Money May asked for, but this time Money is asking tests up to the fight.

    Looking at what happen to Mosley and Money, they never had test inside 3 weeks.

    I think Pacman should take the test for the sake of making this fight happen.
    But I do not think Mayweather will stop there. He will ask for insane demands that will eventually kill the fight. With all the criminal cases being lined up to him, I guess he had all the exits secured. He can stay out of pacman fight and be able to make an argument about his "greatness"

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dench View Post
    I believe Arum, Roach and Pacman already told everybody that they are willing to do Blood test if NSAC or the State sanctioning commission will impose it, and not just because someone will put it on the terms of the fight, just like what Money May wanted to do. NSAC stood by its regulation not to do blood testing for any of it commissioned fights, thats where when USADA came into picture.

    Pacman camp then agreed for the USADA-imposed tests but they asked for a window of originally 24 days. Mayweather then asked it to be 14. The talks collapse then.
    On the 2nd negotiation, pacman and his camp already agreed to do the test inside the 14 day window which Money May asked for, but this time Money is asking tests up to the fight.

    Looking at what happen to Mosley and Money, they never had test inside 3 weeks.

    I think Pacman should take the test for the sake of making this fight happen.
    But I do not think Mayweather will stop there. He will ask for insane demands that will eventually kill the fight. With all the criminal cases being lined up to him, I guess he had all the exits secured. He can stay out of pacman fight and be able to make an argument about his "greatness"
    No he will not!

    The glove size could be a pontential problem too. I see Floyd demanding big supersoft type of gloves for his girlie brittle hands.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dench View Post
    I believe Arum, Roach and Pacman already told everybody that they are willing to do Blood test if NSAC or the State sanctioning commission will impose it, and not just because someone will put it on the terms of the fight, just like what Money May wanted to do. NSAC stood by its regulation not to do blood testing for any of it commissioned fights, thats where when USADA came into picture.

    Pacman camp then agreed for the USADA-imposed tests but they asked for a window of originally 24 days. Mayweather then asked it to be 14. The talks collapse then.
    On the 2nd negotiation, pacman and his camp already agreed to do the test inside the 14 day window which Money May asked for, but this time Money is asking tests up to the fight.

    Looking at what happen to Mosley and Money, they never had test inside 3 weeks.

    I think Pacman should take the test for the sake of making this fight happen.
    But I do not think Mayweather will stop there. He will ask for insane demands that will eventually kill the fight. With all the criminal cases being lined up to him, I guess he had all the exits secured. He can stay out of pacman fight and be able to make an argument about his "greatness"
    No he will not!

    The glove size could be a potential problem too. I see Floyd demanding big supersoft type of gloves for his girlie brittle hands.
    I do agree, Money always use a sizable pair of gloves, for two reasons I think: 1. they protect floyd's hands from his recurring injury. There were news they usually numb it with a pain reliever too. 2. those huge gloves can help floyd to cover his face. When he roll that shoulder he always keeps his hand on his chin and the other hand down for an impending counter punch. That adds up to his defense I guess.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Who cares! ?

    If it's not testing, it's "Money", if it's not the Money, it's the "Venue", If it's not the venue, it's an "Injury", If it's not an injury, it's "______" fill in the blank. "It goes on and on and on, on and on." it's like a fuk'n rap song.....

    This drama will not be over, even when the signature is on the bottom line. They are both drama queens and attention whores. The only difference between the two is their character. One is humble about it while the other is boastful. The crap is so thick, even a mask won't help.

    There ain't no solution!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    I do disagree with one thing. The "Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash" .Statement. I have had first hand and I know people in my family who have been given blood tests and for a few days after you feel weaker than you normally would. I am not saying sick as a dog and not able to move but you just do not feel 100%. There I can give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I do disagree with one thing. The "Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash" .Statement. I have had first hand and I know people in my family who have been given blood tests and for a few days after you feel weaker than you normally would. I am not saying sick as a dog and not able to move but you just do not feel 100%. There I can give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt.

    Yes, understood, but the same holds true for both fighters. It's a level playing field in more ways than one, but your point is a good one.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ukboxingwatcher View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!
    I disagree, as it's been said Pac many times has a problem and really dislikes needles. Mayweather doesn't at all, and while it isn't a hugely big deal everyone is different and bodies/minds react differently.
    And now with all the hype and press around it, there would be the whole mental disadvantage.

    It's silly, they should just get on with it.
    Dislikes needles?? The man has multiple tattoo's he can't dislike needles that much!!


    Great point. Also, is that Art Serwanno whose eyes rolled back into his head? Good God, that's scary.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ukboxingwatcher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by carpetrepairhouston View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!
    I disagree, as it's been said Pac many times has a problem and really dislikes needles. Mayweather doesn't at all, and while it isn't a hugely big deal everyone is different and bodies/minds react differently.
    And now with all the hype and press around it, there would be the whole mental disadvantage.

    It's silly, they should just get on with it.
    Dislikes needles?? The man has multiple tattoo's he can't dislike needles that much!!


    Great point. Also, is that Art Serwanno whose eyes rolled back into his head? Good God, that's scary.
    Yes thats right. It has to be one of he most brutal one punch KO's I've ever seen!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ukboxingwatcher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by carpetrepairhouston View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    In this connection, I don’t buy is Manny’s claim that rrandom blood testing is impractical and dangerous, particularly if it is conducted within days of the actual fight. Losing blood so close to fight time can weaken a fighter. That’s pure hogwash.
    Agreed,

    However, if both fighters are doing the same testing, then wouldnt both of them be equally endangered because of the loss of blood?

    Yep!
    I disagree, as it's been said Pac many times has a problem and really dislikes needles. Mayweather doesn't at all, and while it isn't a hugely big deal everyone is different and bodies/minds react differently.
    And now with all the hype and press around it, there would be the whole mental disadvantage.

    It's silly, they should just get on with it.
    Dislikes needles?? The man has multiple tattoo's he can't dislike needles that much!!


    Great point. Also, is that Art Serwanno whose eyes rolled back into his head? Good God, that's scary.
    Yes thats right. It has to be one of he most brutal one punch KO's I've ever seen!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Dislikes needles?? The man has multiple tattoo's he can't dislike needles that much!!
    I have a tattoo, I also have a strong dislike of getting shots/having blood drawn. It's an entirely different thing. Needles all the way in my veins freaks me out, needles barely poking my skin with ink doesn't bother me at all. The two are dramatically different, like being scratched with a knife vs being stabbed with a knife.

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