Valuev definatley. It was his defining fight.
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Valuev definatley. It was his defining fight.
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Valeuv was his defining fight and impressive visually because of the size difference, but it was in reality a nothing win imo.
Having seen most of Valuev's fights, the only time he ever looked impressive was in beatin Sergiei Lyakovich, a top 20 heavyweight.
Ruiz hands down beat Valuev the first time they fought, Evander Holyfield beat him in the opinion of most. Larry Donald beat him in the opinion of many, Ruslan Chagaev beat him and got the decision.
So in reality beating a guy who lost to Larry Donald, John Ruiz, Ruslan Chagaev and an ancient Evander Holyfield is not much of a defining in imo.
I Don't believe Valuev has ever been a legitimate top 10 heavyweight. There are a bunch of guys out there who could beat, some of them at cruiser and even light heavy.
I guess Mormeck was his most credible win, it got him the undisputed cruiserweight crown and title of ring champ at the weight.
But I don't think Haye has beaten anybody that Solis, Adamek, Chambers, Povetkin or even Carl Thompson would have failed to beat.
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Mormeck. Valuev was and is shit, and the way Haye fought him bordered on embarrassing.
Agreed. Valuev is utter crap, I have no idea why Haye didn't open up more against him, it's not like the freakshow can punch. I seriously am not positive he could beat Manny Pacquiao in a 12 round fight. How would Valuev actually win? I might be stretching this a liiiitle but have no doubt there are all kinds of fighters who could have beaten him weighing well under 200 lbs.
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I have posted this many times. I can't see anything other than a 12 round UD with Manny sweeping every round. It would be a case of Valuev standing in the centre of the ring reaching left then right like a giant school kid whilst some bullies throw his schoolbag over his head to each other, or more accurately in this analogy under his legs.
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Going into Mormeck's back yard and stopping him is Haye's best win for me. Can't think of many others
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I picked Valuev because of the size difference and how he rocked him. Mormeck is just as crap as Valuev if you ask me. Look at him now... should have lost to Oquendo, and SD with Ibragimov, not exactly setting the world on fire.
Were he to stop Valuev I think more people would have picked that fight. I think he could have, but the way he chose to fight him prevented him from stopping Valuev.
Valuev had been hurt by several fighters with far less power than the WBA title holder, guys like Taras Bidenko and Monte Barrett rocked Valuev.
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I say Ruiz. He went into that fight without much sparring because of the cut he received in training from Flores and though he was past his best Ruiz was still pretty active but boring to watch and IMO he beat Valuev at least once.
Haye just pummelled him from round one until the fight was stopped and I still have to give credit to Ruiz for getting up from that one two Haye hit him with in the first round. I was sat about 10 rows back and the noise that the right hand made when it landed on Ruiz's head was sickening. I said to my girlfriend there and then bloody hell it's over.
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Def. beating The Marksman has been his best work and also one of his more exciting fights.
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