Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread

[TitoFan]

Cotto will win. He's the less washed up of the two anyway, and even if they were at or around their best I'd take Cotto, he's an all round better fighter.

At there best? I would never pick Cotto to beat Forrest. So at there best, I'll go with Mayorga just because Cotto chin has never been great. But this fight, we don't know what Cotto is bringing. If he gets backed up, and give Mayorga confidence, it's going to be a long night for Cotto.


Sidenote: Arum is the best promoter today. He already mini promoted Pacman vs Mayorga. Already got Margarito vs Cotto 2 lined up. Already told JMM to get away from DLH in order to get a fight against Pacman. The man sees $$$$$.

at his best i'd never pick Mayorga to beat the Mosley that Cotto beat...

Mosley was well past his best by the time he fought Cotto also though, and probably only slightly more faded when Mayorga gave him such a tough fight a year or so later. Going by all that I think there's every chane that a PRIME Mayorga would have won a decision against old Shane, but so what. Prime for prime of course Mosley stops him 10 times out of ten. I don't think Cotto would have really had much of a chance against either at their best though honestly, or many other truly elite welterweights of the last 20 years. Couldn't see Miguel beating a prime Oscar, Tito, Quartey, Forrest, Mosley, Floyd, or even Mayorga due to styles. Obviously they would have all been great action fights, I just don't quite rate his chances.

Every time I read that, I gotta bring up Mosley-Margarito, which happened after Cotto-Mosley. Style differences notwithstanding, Mosley brought it that night... and put a fearful beating on Margacheato. So he couldn't have been THAT much "past his best." Now fast forward to Mosley-Mayweather, and THERE you had signs of a Mosley suddenly looking past his best.

[chinchekked]

Okay, I gotta say this, I am not a Cotto fan but I just don't understand how people can be confident that Mayorga is going to win. I personally have a feeling that Mayorga is going to win this fight because he will get in Cotto's head but this is just a hunch and I have no sound reasoning behind this. Sure Mayorga can apply pressure and make Cotto brawl and possibly try to turn it into a Margarito-ish type fight but the problem is that Mayorga is not Margarito(for better or worse). Cotto lost to a bigger well conditioned man who applied unrelenting pressure and was able to essentially walk thru his punches in Antonio. Mayorga is 37 and he is not well conditioned so that scenario is out in my opinion. Now Mayorga could catch Cotto with one of those wild punches but Cotto is a decent boxer and should be able to avoid the huge ones. I would love to pick Mayorga but with his lifestyle and his style in the ring he's too much of a question mark. I didn't mean for this to be that long but I am just puzzled at how much confidence people have in Mayorga winning.

[TitoFan]

Okay, I gotta say this, I am not a Cotto fan but I just don't understand how people can be confident that Mayorga is going to win. I personally have a feeling that Mayorga is going to win this fight because he will get in Cotto's head but this is just a hunch and I have no sound reasoning behind this. Sure Mayorga can apply pressure and make Cotto brawl and possibly try to turn it into a Margarito-ish type fight but the problem is that Mayorga is not Margarito(for better or worse). Cotto lost to a bigger well conditioned man who applied unrelenting pressure and was able to essentially walk thru his punches in Antonio. Mayorga is 37 and he is not well conditioned so that scenario is out in my opinion. Now Mayorga could catch Cotto with one of those wild punches but Cotto is a decent boxer and should be able to avoid the huge ones. I would love to pick Mayorga but with his lifestyle and his style in the ring he's too much of a question mark. I didn't mean for this to be that long but I am just puzzled at how much confidence people have in Mayorga winning.

Well... thus far there's only 3 Mayorga votes, and one of them is an avowed Cotto-hater, so that one probably doesn't count. So you really only got 2 intelligent Mayorga votes out of 15, or about 13%.

[chinchekked]

Okay, I gotta say this, I am not a Cotto fan but I just don't understand how people can be confident that Mayorga is going to win. I personally have a feeling that Mayorga is going to win this fight because he will get in Cotto's head but this is just a hunch and I have no sound reasoning behind this. Sure Mayorga can apply pressure and make Cotto brawl and possibly try to turn it into a Margarito-ish type fight but the problem is that Mayorga is not Margarito(for better or worse). Cotto lost to a bigger well conditioned man who applied unrelenting pressure and was able to essentially walk thru his punches in Antonio. Mayorga is 37 and he is not well conditioned so that scenario is out in my opinion. Now Mayorga could catch Cotto with one of those wild punches but Cotto is a decent boxer and should be able to avoid the huge ones. I would love to pick Mayorga but with his lifestyle and his style in the ring he's too much of a question mark. I didn't mean for this to be that long but I am just puzzled at how much confidence people have in Mayorga winning.

Well... thus far there's only 3 Mayorga votes, and one of them is an avowed Cotto-hater, so that one probably doesn't count. So you really only got 2 intelligent Mayorga votes out of 15, or about 13%.

I was nto basing this solely on the poll, what motivated the creation of that post was alot of the banter I have come across on other threads in the past couple of weeks

[Julius Rain]

Easy fight for Cotto. Mayorga is a bum.

[El Kabong]

Pac-Mayorga don't even suggest that shit!

Mayorga is well past it we're only going to see more of what we've already seen of him vs top competition....that's Mayorga swinging and missing and getting countered violently. Cotto TKO 8-10

[:::PSL:::]

Lol!

[Spicoli]

Gotta go with Cotto. They say skill beats will and Cotto on his worst day is miles ahead of Mayorga in skill and for that matter will...Mayorga has become accustomed to losing the big ones and playing his role to a tee. Been there-done that and just spell my name right on the check Mr. Arum

Mayorgas only chance is to blitz him early. He has to shoot his load and know Cotto himself is boardering on spent shell status. Make him see ghosts. He's big, very physical and just don't give a fook but you really don't get to Cotto early, ya have to last and wear him out. Mayorga don't have the stamina or focus late.

[ross]

They say skill beats will.

So Mayorga was more skillfull than Forrest and Vargas?

[Spicoli]

They say skill beats will.

So Mayorga was more skillfull than Forrest and Vargas?

Nah will and freshness was there 8 yrs and 4-5 losses ago. He did well...gave Forrest the 2nd go. I would say he was more skilled, for what thats worth, then a shot to pieces bloated Vargas who looked more Odlandier Solis.

[No Contest]

Gotta go with Cotto. They say skill beats will and Cotto on his worst day is miles ahead of Mayorga in skill and for that matter will...Mayorga has become accustomed to losing the big ones and playing his role to a tee. Been there-done that and just spell my name right on the check Mr. Arum

Mayorgas only chance is to blitz him early. He has to shoot his load and know Cotto himself is boardering on spent shell status. Make him see ghosts. He's big, very physical and just don't give a fook but you really don't get to Cotto early, ya have to last and wear him out. Mayorga don't have the stamina or focus late.

Skill beats will?? You try telling Rocky Balboa that mister!

[BoxingGorilla]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

[Hulk]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

A travesty ?

It would be a triumph.

[Gandalf]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

A travesty ?

It would be a triumph.

It would be a delightful result and a real kick to the teeth of the establishment. Mayorga is old school like Johnny Rotten used to be. Nothing could thrill me more than to see an old underdog do a number on Cotto. And that is in no way being disrespectful to Cotto who I like a lot, but you have to support one of the fighters, you can't go looking for a simultaneous knockout or a draw. I'm always a sucker for the underdog and I've always liked Mayorga. Such a fun fighter and it is for those basic reasons that I want him to at least do well.

[BoxingGorilla]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

A travesty ?

It would be a triumph.

A travesty. Mayorga is a ridiculous now-and-again fighter who would do nothing to further the boxing scene. Cotto has delt with being punched in the face by a brick fisted cheater and needs this win to carry on.

BUT if it's true that Mayorga is only getting $50,000 I hope he wins just to spite the greedy bastards.