I am attempting to join the ARMY.

[Hornfinger]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

[Master]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

Whats the matter hit a raw nerve, wrong time of the month, not getting any, that was a joke.

[Hornfinger]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

Whats the matter hit a raw nerve, wrong time of the month, not getting any, that was a joke.

No I was agreeing with you fire fighters do fuck all, and are complete pussies.

[Master]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

Whats the matter hit a raw nerve, wrong time of the month, not getting any, that was a joke.

No I was agreeing with you fire fighters do fuck all, and are complete pussies.

You forgot the other stereotype that they all have second jobs as well.

[Ghost]

Hornfinger, where do you hail from?

Why did you stop being a Fire fighter?

[CFH]

When topics like this come up, I think it's important to recognize that we all have different perspectives on contentious issues.

No Contest is a long-time member of the site and it's obvious that this is something he's thought about for a while prior to making his decision. Calling each other names and ridiculing each others beliefs/careers etc. doesn't do anything other than get people upset and it's sure as shit not going to change anyone's opinions, least of all the guy who's already decided to join the military. I think the best thing we can do is wish No Contest good luck and success in his new career.

[CFH]

When topics like this come up, I think it's important to recognize that we all have different perspectives on contentious issues.

No Contest is a long-time member of the site and it's obvious that this is something he's thought about for a while prior to making his decision. Calling each other names and ridiculing each others beliefs/careers etc. doesn't do anything other than get people upset and it's sure as shit not going to change anyone's opinions, least of all the guy who's already decided to join the military. I think the best thing we can do is wish No Contest good luck and success in his new career.

I just want to add that, in the past, I have been guilty of saying some pretty assholish things on these sorts of topics as well, so I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to assume a position of moral superiority here because that is not my intention.

While my position on certain subjects has changed a bit over time, I still feel that we can all get together and share our opinions on whatever issues we're discussing, but I think we should try to do so in as respectful a manner as possible, especially when it's regarding the personal lives of our members. I've learned that that is the only real way any meaningful dialogue takes place.

[/sanctimonious rant]

[Gandalf]

When topics like this come up, I think it's important to recognize that we all have different perspectives on contentious issues.

No Contest is a long-time member of the site and it's obvious that this is something he's thought about for a while prior to making his decision. Calling each other names and ridiculing each others beliefs/careers etc. doesn't do anything other than get people upset and it's sure as shit not going to change anyone's opinions, least of all the guy who's already decided to join the military. I think the best thing we can do is wish No Contest good luck and success in his new career.

Yes, I kind of think the same way these days.

Of course, I totally agree with Hornfingers arguments and that is one of the reasons I abstained from this thread. Diz started a thread like this a while back and I wasn't very nice about the military and I don't really want to rain on another persons parade again. I also started a thread a while back asking if the army was only for idiots. In the later thread I had every right to stomp my views all over the place as it was my thread and I had fire in my belly, so in this thread I think it right to stay cool.

I would certainly never pursue the work that No Contest is for obvious political, moral and ideological reasons, but each man to their own. I like the chap and wish him well in life. I'm sure I will rail against the military at some point in the future, but not now.

As for America being a great country, I happen to think so too in many regards. But though it doesn't impose tyranny at home (economic tyranny is currently expanding), it certainly has imposed both military and economic tyranny upon far too many nations world wide. It isn't wise to stick ones head in the sand about the many and obvious wrongs commited by the US government/military. I always get labelled an American hater and I can see where that view comes from and in some of my more outspoken moments I have been particularly harsh, but my concerns are valid. I am going to leave it at that though. If I have a bee in my bonnet I will start my own threads like I have always done. I seem to have lost all my fire though, I am just feeling far too nice these days. Must be the lack of friends.

[Andre]

HAha I just watched that Doug Stanhope and somehow ended up here.....





it also seems vaguely relevant.

[Andre]

Hornfinger, where do you hail from?

Why did you stop being a Fire fighter?

Hey! Hey one question at a time you!

[Ghost]

Hornfinger, where do you hail from?

Why did you stop being a Fire fighter?

Hey! Hey one question at a time you!

What if I want to ask six more questions bub?

[Andre]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

You could have just said:
I wouldn't personally join the Army, I think it's all about the control of others from the politicians right down through ranks then out onto the countries we move against, instead of for the protection of others at home or there.

[mattboxingfan]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

Yeah no one should join the army that way other countries who have people join there army can take advantage of you. Have some respect people are risking there lives to keep you me and everyone of this forum safe from threats like terrorism. Would you rather wake up to bombs going of where you live? Because i know i sure as hell am glad there are soldiers keeping that threat away from my home and country. I'd say the real stupidity can be seen in a man who sits behind his computer saying every soldier is a murderer fighting for oil. Talk about brainwashed you must have repeated it about 3/4 times and these men and women who chose to fight are the brainwashed ones...

[Hornfinger]

You are a brave man to do this, very brave, I could not do it ever. I could join the fire brigade however.

Yeah and save lives, educate kids in school. Yeah all fire fighters are pussys, never risk their health and don't do any good in the comunity. Well not as much good as a brainwashed troop whos only objective is kill or be killed. God I wish I could do that.

People forget. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. IMO you cross the line into stupidity as soon as you sign up for the army.

Yeah no one should join the army that way other countries who have people join there army can take advantage of you. Have some respect people are risking there lives to keep you me and everyone of this forum safe from threats like terrorism. Would you rather wake up to bombs going of where you live? Because i know i sure as hell am glad there are soldiers keeping that threat away from my home and country. I'd say the real stupidity can be seen in a man who sits behind his computer saying every soldier is a murderer fighting for oil. Talk about brainwashed you must have repeated it about 3/4 times and these men and women who chose to fight are the brainwashed ones...

If everyone in every country refused to be in the army would we have to worry?

Especially us in the west as no one has the missile capability to hit us from there country. And even if they did you'd litterally see the missile coming from a mile a way and would be able to intercept it.

In the west we don't have wars now anyway, they are bombing campeigns. when was the last time that during 'war time' any western country was bombed/invaded by a foreign enemy?

Terrorism threat? what terrorism threat? It is an undeniable statistical fact that more people die each year getting stung by bees than they do getting killed in 'terrorist' attacks. So if you really want to save people in your country it might be a more worth while cause to become a bug exterminator. You'll be saving alot more people in your country that way.