I am attempting to join the ARMY.

[Hornfinger]

Hey Hornfinger, if you dont have anything to add to this thread, why don't you fuck off?

Touching a nerve ay? Seems to me in trying to let another human being they have a lot more to live for than fighting pointless wars for greedy governments I'm adding a lot more to the thread than you. Mr blind sheep that does and believes anything his government says. If you had a mind of your own you might be dangerous.

No you haven't touch a nerve, this thread isn't about American's foreign policy or it's wars, it's about a guy wanting opportunities in life, and he's getting advice from people and well wishers. But you on the other hand came in and start going off about wars, innocent dead, etc. You managed or attempting to derail this thread.

All you have done is serious trolling. I think it's pretty pathetic that someone's highlight of the day is troll around. BTW, I thought you said you're done with trolling? http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-my-chest.html

I'm not trolling at all. And the fact you resort to saying I am says alot. This is something I feel strongly about. And what I'm saying is very very very very very very simple. EVEN you might get it.

DON'T JOIN THE ARMY YOU HAVE MORE GOING FOR YOU AND MORE OPPOTUNITIES THAN RESORTING TO THIS.

MR NO CONTEST YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS AND MORE DESERVING THERE ARE OTHER MUCH MORE WORTH WHILE THINGS YOU CAN DO.

No, you are trolling and it's what is allowed on this board for you and I seriously doubt you feel strongly about this subject. Whether it's some boxing thread to more serious issues like this thread, you come in and troll and derail the topic at hand. It's an obvious pattern.

Okay since you are saying you are not here to troll, then let's see you give some decent advice for this young man then? Besides just typing out, "Don't join army, there's lots of worthwhile things to do." Okay what are they? Let's hear the specifics? Go into the details of what they are.

Nope I'm not trolling at all you just don't have the mental capacity to come up with reasoning why I can't have the opinion that I have, and because of that you come up with this very VERY lame 'trolling' accusation.

Specifics, really?

Join the abulence service, hard to get into it's a challenge, you help people.

Join the fireservice, see above even more relevant than the above if you want that military type disciplin aspect.

Find the thing you really love doing and then think of /find a way of making money out of it. To extend that become a teacher.... which brings me onto...

go back into education

Learn a trade and start your own business be your own boss.

-plumbing
-electrician
-gass fitter
-construction


Suck a dick. Yes be a prostitute. Still a more worth while job than doing a bombing campeign in afghanistan you'll earn more money and you can choose your own hours.

There you go some (I could write a hell of alot more) specifics all more worth while than joining the army.

[generalbulldog]

Ah, now was that so hard horney finger? Now why didn't you come into this thread and gave some decent advice in the beginning but went into a tirade about wasting your life, American foreign policy and few youtube videos on it?

why do you want to waste your life?

I cannot think of anything worse or more pointless.

Unless you like killing poor, weaker people than yourself to rob their country of their natural recourses of course.

This is your 1st post in this thread no? It definitely sounds like 1 is trolling here or attempting to be as insulting as possible to the op of this thread. Even Miles who definitely is against ideas like this, refrained from coming into this thread insulting people on what they want to do with their life.

[Hornfinger]

Ah, now was that so hard horney finger? Now why didn't you come into this thread and gave some decent advice in the beginning but went into a tirade about wasting your life, American foreign policy and few youtube videos on it?

why do you want to waste your life?

I cannot think of anything worse or more pointless.

Unless you like killing poor, weaker people than yourself to rob their country of their natural recourses of course.

This is your 1st post in this thread no? It definitely sounds like 1 is trolling here or attempting to be as insulting as possible to the op of this thread. Even Miles who definitely is against ideas like this, refrained from coming into this thread insulting people on what they want to do with their life.

Said it all already

you just don't have the mental capacity to come up with reasoning why I can't have the opinion that I have, and because of that you come up with this very VERY lame 'trolling' accusation.

[Ghost]

Ah, now was that so hard horney finger? Now why didn't you come into this thread and gave some decent advice in the beginning but went into a tirade about wasting your life, American foreign policy and few youtube videos on it?

why do you want to waste your life?

I cannot think of anything worse or more pointless.

Unless you like killing poor, weaker people than yourself to rob their country of their natural recourses of course.

This is your 1st post in this thread no? It definitely sounds like 1 is trolling here or attempting to be as insulting as possible to the op of this thread. Even Miles who definitely is against ideas like this, refrained from coming into this thread insulting people on what they want to do with their life.

Said it all already

you just don't have the mental capacity to come up with reasoning why I can't have the opinion that I have, and because of that you come up with this very VERY lame 'trolling' accusation.

It's called Respect. Respect for other people feelings and Respect for other peoples choices in life (be they right or wrong)

"Freedom of Speech" is a basic right we all are given in our countries (Not all have it) given by the government and protected by the military.

In your opinion, you are not trolling. In my opinion, you are shitting on mine and every one else's family who has every fought in a war, served in the military or died, to help protect your right/freedom(s) to say what every fancies your thoughts on the day.

Respect cost you nothing to give to some one but can cost you plenty when you lose it.

[Hornfinger]

Ah, now was that so hard horney finger? Now why didn't you come into this thread and gave some decent advice in the beginning but went into a tirade about wasting your life, American foreign policy and few youtube videos on it?

why do you want to waste your life?

I cannot think of anything worse or more pointless.

Unless you like killing poor, weaker people than yourself to rob their country of their natural recourses of course.

This is your 1st post in this thread no? It definitely sounds like 1 is trolling here or attempting to be as insulting as possible to the op of this thread. Even Miles who definitely is against ideas like this, refrained from coming into this thread insulting people on what they want to do with their life.

Said it all already

you just don't have the mental capacity to come up with reasoning why I can't have the opinion that I have, and because of that you come up with this very VERY lame 'trolling' accusation.

It's called Respect. Respect for other people feelings and Respect for other peoples choices in life (be they right or wrong)

"Freedom of Speech" is a basic right we all are given in our countries (Not all have it) given by the government and protected by the military.

In your opinion, you are not trolling. In my opinion, you are shitting on mine and every one else's family who has every fought in a war, served in the military or died, to help protect your right/freedom(s) to say what every fancies your thoughts on the day.

Respect cost you nothing to give to some one but can cost you plenty when you lose it.

Both my grand parents fought in WW2. And I know that one of them (who actually got medals for being a war hero) was far from proud of his service.

Bombing afghanistan and iraq is not protecting my freedom, my freedom was never in danger from either of those countries. The faulklands didn't protect my freedom, Vietnam didn't protect my freedom. All were pointless and just cost lives very very needlessly, and were all put into operation on a lie. The sooner people realize this and stop encouraging each other to go out and do these stupid things the sooner we can stop the pointless loss of our loved ones.

In my life time I'm not greatful to the army for anything. NOT ONE THING!

The only thing I am pro war about, is it is the last line of natural selection we have. Although that is not really true anymore when you look at the statistics of troops from the west who died in afghanistan/iraq compared to the number they anhiliated.

Seeing as this is in the 'let's get it on' section of this forum I am breaking no rules by EXPRESSING MY OPINION on this topic.

[boozeboxer]

Ah, now was that so hard horney finger? Now why didn't you come into this thread and gave some decent advice in the beginning but went into a tirade about wasting your life, American foreign policy and few youtube videos on it?

why do you want to waste your life?

I cannot think of anything worse or more pointless.

Unless you like killing poor, weaker people than yourself to rob their country of their natural recourses of course.

This is your 1st post in this thread no? It definitely sounds like 1 is trolling here or attempting to be as insulting as possible to the op of this thread. Even Miles who definitely is against ideas like this, refrained from coming into this thread insulting people on what they want to do with their life.

Said it all already

you just don't have the mental capacity to come up with reasoning why I can't have the opinion that I have, and because of that you come up with this very VERY lame 'trolling' accusation.

It's called Respect. Respect for other people feelings and Respect for other peoples choices in life (be they right or wrong)

"Freedom of Speech" is a basic right we all are given in our countries (Not all have it) given by the government and protected by the military.

In your opinion, you are not trolling. In my opinion, you are shitting on mine and every one else's family who has every fought in a war, served in the military or died, to help protect your right/freedom(s) to say what every fancies your thoughts on the day.

Respect cost you nothing to give to some one but can cost you plenty when you lose it.

Both my grand parents fought in WW2. And I know that one of them (who actually got medals for being a war hero) was far from proud of his service.

Bombing afghanistan and iraq is not protecting my freedom, my freedom was never in danger from either of those countries. The faulklands didn't protect my freedom, Vietnam didn't protect my freedom. All were pointless and just cost lives very very needlessly, and were all put into operation on a lie. The sooner people realize this and stop encouraging each other to go out and do these stupid things the sooner we can stop the pointless loss of our loved ones.

In my life time I'm not greatful to the army for anything. NOT ONE THING!

The only thing I am pro war about, is it is the last line of natural selection we have. Although that is not really true anymore when you look at the statistics of troops from the west who died in afghanistan/iraq compared to the number they anhiliated.

Seeing as this is in the 'let's get it on' section of this forum I am breaking no rules by EXPRESSING MY OPINION on this topic.

What about SALT II?

[Hornfinger]

SALT II?

Please enlighten me. This is obviously something I've missed and have no clue about and could be the thing that makes me change my mind on this whole issue.

[Ghost]

Bombing afghanistan and iraq is not protecting my freedom, my freedom was never in danger from either of those countries. The faulklands didn't protect my freedom, Vietnam didn't protect my freedom. All were pointless and just cost lives very very needlessly, and were all put into operation on a lie. The sooner people realize this and stop encouraging each other to go out and do these stupid things the sooner we can stop the pointless loss of our loved ones.

In my life time I'm not greatful to the army for anything. NOT ONE THING!

The only thing I am pro war about, is it is the last line of natural selection we have. Although that is not really true anymore when you look at the statistics of troops from the west who died in afghanistan/iraq compared to the number they anhiliated.

Seeing as this is in the 'let's get it on' section of this forum I am breaking no rules by EXPRESSING MY OPINION on this topic.

Not stopping you from expressing your opinion, Far from it.

And you are not breaking any rules in this section of the forum. And thank you for pointing out witch section we are in as any thing goes down. (Forgot that for a moment)

Don't know about your grandparents, but if you were my kid, you would not be walking for a month. Don't give 2 shits where you are from, where your grand parents fought or in witch war. Common courtesy is some thing most kids were taught some years ago. You young fuck wits seem to have lost that training or your parents forgot what it meant. No problem, I can come down to your level and converse in child speak.

Your opinion means jack to me.Could careless what you think about the army, the government or even me. You are so low on my to do list that it might be a year before I even think about you again.

Or in other words, talking about pond scum would be more interesting than listening to the dribble that pours out of your mouth.

[Gandalf]

Bombing afghanistan and iraq is not protecting my freedom, my freedom was never in danger from either of those countries. The faulklands didn't protect my freedom, Vietnam didn't protect my freedom. All were pointless and just cost lives very very needlessly, and were all put into operation on a lie. The sooner people realize this and stop encouraging each other to go out and do these stupid things the sooner we can stop the pointless loss of our loved ones.

In my life time I'm not greatful to the army for anything. NOT ONE THING!

The only thing I am pro war about, is it is the last line of natural selection we have. Although that is not really true anymore when you look at the statistics of troops from the west who died in afghanistan/iraq compared to the number they anhiliated.

Seeing as this is in the 'let's get it on' section of this forum I am breaking no rules by EXPRESSING MY OPINION on this topic.

Not stopping you from expressing your opinion, Far from it.

And you are not breaking any rules in this section of the forum. And thank you for pointing out witch section we are in as any thing goes down. (Forgot that for a moment)

Don't know about your grandparents, but if you were my kid, you would not be walking for a month. Don't give 2 shits where you are from, where your grand parents fought or in witch war. Common courtesy is some thing most kids were taught some years ago. You young fuck wits seem to have lost that training or your parents forgot what it meant. No problem, I can come down to your level and converse in child speak.

Your opinion means jack to me.Could careless what you think about the army, the government or even me. You are so low on my to do list that it might be a year before I even think about you again.

Or in other words, talking about pond scum would be more interesting than listening to the dribble that pours out of your mouth.

You would beat your kid for expressing an entirely valid viewpoint?

Hornfinger has said nothing particularly controversial. Sure, he could have said it with more tact, but ultimately he is quite right. The Vietnam war WAS built upon a deception. The Iraq war was again based upon deception. How dare Hornfinger suggest that those that went there to serve were in some way complicit in the deception and ultimately helped to kill many millions of people. Sure, they may have been ignorant or else just didn't care about the politics, but they still partook in a dishonest war effort. Are you suggesting that he is making that up and is out of line for suggesting that this was the case?

But sure, whip off the belt and beat the kid who reads between the lines. Gotta make those darn kids learn some respect!

[Hornfinger]

Bombing afghanistan and iraq is not protecting my freedom, my freedom was never in danger from either of those countries. The faulklands didn't protect my freedom, Vietnam didn't protect my freedom. All were pointless and just cost lives very very needlessly, and were all put into operation on a lie. The sooner people realize this and stop encouraging each other to go out and do these stupid things the sooner we can stop the pointless loss of our loved ones.

In my life time I'm not greatful to the army for anything. NOT ONE THING!

The only thing I am pro war about, is it is the last line of natural selection we have. Although that is not really true anymore when you look at the statistics of troops from the west who died in afghanistan/iraq compared to the number they anhiliated.

Seeing as this is in the 'let's get it on' section of this forum I am breaking no rules by EXPRESSING MY OPINION on this topic.

Not stopping you from expressing your opinion, Far from it.

And you are not breaking any rules in this section of the forum. And thank you for pointing out witch section we are in as any thing goes down. (Forgot that for a moment)

Don't know about your grandparents, but if you were my kid, you would not be walking for a month. Don't give 2 shits where you are from, where your grand parents fought or in witch war. Common courtesy is some thing most kids were taught some years ago. You young fuck wits seem to have lost that training or your parents forgot what it meant. No problem, I can come down to your level and converse in child speak.

Your opinion means jack to me.Could careless what you think about the army, the government or even me. You are so low on my to do list that it might be a year before I even think about you again.

Or in other words, talking about pond scum would be more interesting than listening to the dribble that pours out of your mouth.

Like wise so you have no problem with me saying what I'm saying.