Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread

[Julius Rain]

Just saw the fight, that was a bizarre ending. Was it a left hook and then Mayorga looks at his left hand as he takes a knee. Weird. Mayorga continued on and did throw that same hand. I dont know what happen there. I knew Cotto would beat him up though.

The left hook to the right side of the jaw must've sent a jolt of electricity through the arm and into the left hand. Only explanation I can figure.

haha, kind of like a heart attack. The chin got hit so hard his hand began to stiffen up.

[fan johnny]

Dude, The man just used his reasoning because he was obviously hurt. It may have looked like he quit because of the left but he wasn't out on his feet or anything like that. He was very coherent. Nothing about it was pathetic.

A man with so much brashness and malice towards Cotto as Mayorga carried himself, to quit in that manner and deprive Cotto his just due, his sense of redemption from this ridicule, is unacceptable.

Ricardo should have tried harder to back his big talk with a bang, wether it was Cotto's or his'. Whimpering demurely at the first sign of danger and just within a grasp of the final bell is inconceivable coming out of that drama.

Just my two cents Johnny, just MHO.

I take nothing away from Cotto, It was a good win. He showed us a lot of confidence, something he's been lacking in the later rounds. His skill and staying power were all together in this fight.

It was a very weird reaction to that left hit to watch. At first it looked like a great left put Mayorga down and out on the knee. But seeing him on the knee, he looked strong and did not look like he was suffering from the blow to the head. It looked like he was favoring the left wrist. Looking at the replay if seemed to confirm my first thoughts that it was the left that hurt him. It was obvious he thought about it for half a second when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue and he did, true to his nature and I imagine he said fuck it!, (fuck the thumb) and lets go. He then proceed to throw that left as normal. He didn't get hit with a good shot from Cotto again and he said in the interview, I just couldn't make a fist.

The mans has guts and is overly an "A Type" personality. I like watch his fights because they are very entertaining. I not a big fan, I just like his antics. I'm a bigger fan of Cotto. I think your reading way too much into what he did. He obviously doesn't have that kind of complex thinking in the ring you are supposing. I doubt he's doing anything in the ring about 'thought' other than conditioned reflex and desire to win.

[TitoFan]

Dude, The man just used his reasoning because he was obviously hurt. It may have looked like he quit because of the left but he wasn't out on his feet or anything like that. He was very coherent. Nothing about it was pathetic.

A man with so much brashness and malice towards Cotto as Mayorga carried himself, to quit in that manner and deprive Cotto his just due, his sense of redemption from this ridicule, is unacceptable.

Ricardo should have tried harder to back his big talk with a bang, wether it was Cotto's or his'. Whimpering demurely at the first sign of danger and just within a grasp of the final bell is inconceivable coming out of that drama.

Just my two cents Johnny, just MHO.

I take nothing away from Cotto, It was a good win. He showed us a lot of confidence, something he's been lacking in the later rounds. His skill and staying power were all together in this fight.

It was a very weird reaction to that left hit to watch. At first it looked like a great left put Mayorga down and out on the knee. But seeing him on the knee, he looked strong and did not look like he was suffering from the blow to the head. It looked like he was favoring the left wrist. Looking at the replay if seemed to confirm my first thoughts that it was the left that hurt him. It was obvious he thought about it for half a second when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue and he did, true to his nature and I imagine he said fuck it!, (fuck the thumb) and lets go. He then proceed to throw that left as normal. He didn't get hit with a good shot from Cotto again and he said in the interview, I just couldn't make a fist.

The mans has guts and is overly an "A Type" personality. I like watch his fights because they are very entertaining. I not a big fan, I just like his antics. I'm a bigger fan of Cotto. I think your reading way too much into what he did. He obviously doesn't have that kind of complex thinking in the ring you are supposing. I doubt he's doing anything in the ring about 'thought' other than conditioned reflex and desire to win.

Unlike some ignorant posters do with Cotto, I don't normally label ANY fighter a quitter. I'm not the one in the ring taking punches and suffering injuries. However, you and I must've seen different left hooks. The one I saw clearly put Mayorga down and hurt him. Remember, it's not the first punch Mayorga had taken during the fight. Cotto had been peppering Mayorga all night with rights and lefts to the head. So it's only natural that the left hook in the 12th round (you know.... the round where Ross says Cotto wilts) would hurt Mayorga and put him down. And make no mistake about it, Mayorga WAS hurt. The left hook is Cotto's best punch and it caught Mayorga flush. About his wrist/thumb/hand/whatever? I saw plenty of replays and did not see the injury occur. Not doubting Mayorga's resolve, but........ he WAS on his way to getting KTFO'ed one way or another.

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[TitoFan]

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I'll be damned... I got one right! LOL!

[JazzWolf]

It was a great fight like Tiger vs Lion.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

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[TitoFan]

Here in Puerto Rico I get the benefit of reading the local press and the coverage they give our boxers. Interestingly enough, the focus lately has been on the general fan perception of Cotto. Beginning with his fight vs. Mayorga. Some fans (such as myself) were very satisfied with the win… while others were not. I read a columnist’s take in a local newspaper where he felt Cotto was less than impressive and should’ve disposed of Mayorga before the 12th round, and with greater ease. Then, there’s the general perception of Cotto the person.

Personally, I think Cotto is a tremendous boxer, with a vast amount of skills, a resume worthy of comparison with the best fighters we've had over the years, and now a terrific trainer in Emanuel Stewart. I thought his TKO over Mayorga was very impressive, and I thought he looked good all around. While almost 38, Mayorga remains a dangerous opponent who throws wild shots from all over. He had trained as much as ever for this fight, his alleged physical ailments were in the past (as per Ricardo himself).... no excuses. And obviously Mayorga is naturally the bigger and perhaps stronger man. Cotto himself is pleased with the results, as he has stated in the press. I felt he exercised the necessary caution during the early rounds as to not get caught with a wild punch that could put him in trouble. As the fight wore on, he took control, until the TKO came in the 12th. Which by the way, also answered questions about his stamina, probably due in great part to Stewart's coaching and tutelage.

But... you'd be surprised at the amount of criticism Cotto gets here on the island. Not from everybody, mind you. Cotto has plenty of fans here in Puerto Rico. But the adulation is nowhere near the amount it was for Felix Trinidad when he was fighting. And in a way I think it's kind of sad. People want to compare Cotto to Trinidad both in and out of the ring. And that's not fair. Tito was engaging, fan-friendly, etc, etc. I remember his demeanor when he went into the ring. He was always smiling, and you could tell he loved fighting. That, plus his enormous success, made him a fan favorite. Hell... I myself was always a huge Tito fan (hence the nickname) and still am. I also think Tito's resume is still and will always be better than Cotto's.

But people have Cotto pegged all wrong. Just because he's more serious and smiles very little (he's also not that fan-friendly), doesn't make him a bad person. That's just his personality. It also doesn't help that he came onto the scene immediately after Tito. Obviously the comparisons are inevitable, 'cause the same generation of fans is seeing both fighters.

To me, Cotto is a professional. He goes about his business, carries himself well in the public eye, doesn't trash-talk anybody (Tito never did, either), and gives it his all out there in the ring. What more can a fan ask of a fighter? He might not sign as many autographs as Tito did, or may not be as engaging as Tito in public.... but so what? He represents our island very well, IMO, and deserves all the credit in the world.

I've also noticed a change in Cotto's perception right here on the forum. Some years ago Cotto was not highly regarded. I had seen Cotto's fights from the very beginning and always knew he was headed for stardom. Over time, however, I've seen Cotto become a favorite of many in the forum, and that makes me feel good. No one is liked by everyone, though, and that's a fact of life. All boxers will have their "haters", and that's to be expected.

Anyway... didn't mean to ramble so much, but I thought I'd share some perspectives from Cotto's local fans.

[Spicoli]

Say it again...you truely do not see a fight until its on a wide screen on the wall in the comfort of your living room Showtime replaying it now....Cotto might have to go heavyweight if he wants anymore ink on his body!

Edit, respects to Mayorga but Showtime team was taking for a ride with such a non-story in the hurt hand. Had zero to do with anything

[Mar]

After watching again tarver called it right . Cotto caught him so good on the chin that it broke his wrist

[carpetrepairhouston]

Here in Puerto Rico I get the benefit of reading the local press ...

Thanks for that insight TitoFan. I'm a huge fan of Cotto and have been for the longest. It was nice to read the percpetion from the islands.

P.S. I was NEVER a fan of Titos.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Here in Puerto Rico I get the benefit of reading the local press and the coverage they give our boxers. Interestingly enough, the focus lately has been on the general fan perception of Cotto. Beginning with his fight vs. Mayorga. Some fans (such as myself) were very satisfied with the win… while others were not. I read a columnist’s take in a local newspaper where he felt Cotto was less than impressive and should’ve disposed of Mayorga before the 12th round, and with greater ease. Then, there’s the general perception of Cotto the person.

Personally, I think Cotto is a tremendous boxer, with a vast amount of skills, a resume worthy of comparison with the best fighters we've had over the years, and now a terrific trainer in Emanuel Stewart. I thought his TKO over Mayorga was very impressive, and I thought he looked good all around. While almost 38, Mayorga remains a dangerous opponent who throws wild shots from all over. He had trained as much as ever for this fight, his alleged physical ailments were in the past (as per Ricardo himself).... no excuses. And obviously Mayorga is naturally the bigger and perhaps stronger man. Cotto himself is pleased with the results, as he has stated in the press. I felt he exercised the necessary caution during the early rounds as to not get caught with a wild punch that could put him in trouble. As the fight wore on, he took control, until the TKO came in the 12th. Which by the way, also answered questions about his stamina, probably due in great part to Stewart's coaching and tutelage.

But... you'd be surprised at the amount of criticism Cotto gets here on the island. Not from everybody, mind you. Cotto has plenty of fans here in Puerto Rico. But the adulation is nowhere near the amount it was for Felix Trinidad when he was fighting. And in a way I think it's kind of sad. People want to compare Cotto to Trinidad both in and out of the ring. And that's not fair. Tito was engaging, fan-friendly, etc, etc. I remember his demeanor when he went into the ring. He was always smiling, and you could tell he loved fighting. That, plus his enormous success, made him a fan favorite. Hell... I myself was always a huge Tito fan (hence the nickname) and still am. I also think Tito's resume is still and will always be better than Cotto's.

But people have Cotto pegged all wrong. Just because he's more serious and smiles very little (he's also not that fan-friendly), doesn't make him a bad person. That's just his personality. It also doesn't help that he came onto the scene immediately after Tito. Obviously the comparisons are inevitable, 'cause the same generation of fans is seeing both fighters.

To me, Cotto is a professional. He goes about his business, carries himself well in the public eye, doesn't trash-talk anybody (Tito never did, either), and gives it his all out there in the ring. What more can a fan ask of a fighter? He might not sign as many autographs as Tito did, or may not be as engaging as Tito in public.... but so what? He represents our island very well, IMO, and deserves all the credit in the world.

I've also noticed a change in Cotto's perception right here on the forum. Some years ago Cotto was not highly regarded. I had seen Cotto's fights from the very beginning and always knew he was headed for stardom. Over time, however, I've seen Cotto become a favorite of many in the forum, and that makes me feel good. No one is liked by everyone, though, and that's a fact of life. All boxers will have their "haters", and that's to be expected.

Anyway... didn't mean to ramble so much, but I thought I'd share some perspectives from Cotto's local fans.

it's the same reason why Juanma is getting the attention Tito would, because Juanma is a lot like Trinidad personality-wise, both loved the attention from the fans, they would allow their fans into their everyday lives for example they could be out with their family and a fan would go up to them and they'll be all smiles, Cotto is a lot more reserved, he keeps his personal life and his job separate

[No Contest]

It was a great fight like Tiger vs Lion.

I'd say it was more like Lion vs Hyena.