Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
I'm a bit confused by this thread too.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If a brilliant fighter pulls off an upset it is surely because of their already established brilliance, they haven't overachieved because they've already achieved enough to make them great?

I guess we just have different definitions on the word "overachiever." Just like we both disagree on the word "elite" or "coward."