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I think ruiz was mandatory so he must have been top 10
Top ten in that organisation but not in general for the heavyweight division. Thats what im saying. Both Kessler and Abraham are leagues above Ruiz and Harrison and thats in their respective primes and when Haye fought them

i dont disagree, i think froch should be higher than haye

i personally think froch should be much higher than he is in the world p4p rankings

i keep banging on about how martinez is seen, yes he deserves to be to 10 but comparing his record to froches, froch deserves to be higher in my opinion

it would be interesting to know how ruiz was seen by the other organisations when he fought haye
froch should be higher than he is in the world rankings. if he beat Ward he'd be top 10 or so. if he beat Ward and Bute, he'd be top 5.

i don't agree with you about martinez, but we've gone over that already.