Could Berto vs Ortiz, Be A Defining Fight?

[Rantcatrat]

the peterson and maidana fights make ortiz look like he was an overhyped prospect, or at least that he just doesnt have what it takes at the top level

i dont think this will be a defining fight, if ortiz wins then he will be back in the big time for sure but if he loses i think he has a long way to go to be considered top level again

if berto loses then it will be a massive blow for his career, losing his title to a faltering light welterweight, Berto has to win well to gain anything from the fight (appart from money obviously)

I think Berto will win inside the distance

Ortiz won't beat Berto. If somehow he pulled the upset, he'd be setting himself up for big, big fights, and Berto would suffer a major set-back. However, it won't happen. Berto will win again and again he has somehow managed to make a ton of money not fighting the guys in the upper echelon fighters in his division.

[ElTerribleMorales]

i'm rooting for Ortiz, if anything he deserves credit for even taking the fight, and IMO if he's able to get it together mentally he can give Berto problems, both guys are leaky in defense, Berto has speed but IMO Ortiz has better power, both guys have been hurt the difference is Ortiz was against one of the hardest hitters in his weight class (Maidana) and Berto was against one of the pillow punchers of his weight class (Collazo), i think the fight's gonna be a lot more competitive than most think

[MMASUX]

I think it's going to be a very good fight. If Berto loses it will be a major step back, however i think if Ortiz loses and it's a competitive fight he will take a step back but not as drastic as Berto.

[jdonaher1]

This fight to me is a classic case of a promotor who is throwing in the towel on a prospect. He either sinks or swims. This is not a good fight for Ortiz, he should be a huge underdog and if he loses he's going to have a long, long road back. I think Berto wins this fight with a KO. I think Golden Boy isn't seeing what they want from Ortiz and that's why he's in this fight.

[hairymadness6]

I'm hoping it will be a good fight but Berto is the prohibitive favorite. If Berto wins he needs to fight the top guys no matter what. If Ortiz wins it's going to have major ramifications for the welterweight division for years.

[J_Undisputed]

This fight to me is a classic case of a promotor who is throwing in the towel on a prospect. He either sinks or swims. This is not a good fight for Ortiz, he should be a huge underdog and if he loses he's going to have a long, long road back. I think Berto wins this fight with a KO. I think Golden Boy isn't seeing what they want from Ortiz and that's why he's in this fight.

Exactly, GBP is serving up Ortiz to Berto. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a down payment on another title shot later from someone else in the stable or possibly a signing. Anyone know when Bertos contract is up? He can't get big defining fights, GBP has got a lot of stroke. Sounds like a match. Win/Win for oscar & co.

[CutMeMick]

2 guys who are young, fast, hard hitters, like to trade and are hungry...
This can go 2 ways.
1. They both come out catious and fight tactical
2. They both come out guns blazing and turn it into a shoot out.


I see Berto getting the TKO win but not before tasting the canvas 1st.