Rocky Marciano's punching power

[Dark Lord Al]

Rocky was a power puncher in his era , fighting guys around the 13 -14 stone mark , but lets not think for a minute that he would have lived with a Lewis or a Klitchko , in his time he was great.

[BIG H]

Rocky was a power puncher in his era , fighting guys around the 13 -14 stone mark , but lets not think for a minute that he would have lived with a Lewis or a Klitchko , in his time he was great.

Agreed mate.

Roger Bannister did a 4 minute mile, but he wouldn't beat Hicham El Guerrouj in they raced. Things evolve, things change. We, as humans are a different species. Rocky Marciano would be small to average Cruiserweight today (great as he was)

[greynotsoold]

Dempsey and Marciano were about the same size. Jess Willard was 6'6" and Dempsey certainly hurt him.

[BIG H]

Dempsey and Marciano were about the same size. Jess Willard was 6'6" and Dempsey certainly hurt him.

Come on Grey, Jess Willard!!! Primo Carnera was 10ft tall, but he was shit as well. I'm talking about size + ability i.e Klitchko! I'm not saying Marciano couldn't beat a 6ft 8 guy that was just walking down the road.

[greynotsoold]

I'm just saying that, if he hit him, he could hurt him. As to who I think would win...

[BIG H]

I'm just saying that, if he hit him, he could hurt him. As to who I think would win...

Fair one. I don't think I'd like to get hi by Suzie Q lol

[El Kabong]

Rocky Marciano was amazing in a couple of aspects...

#1 Total comitment to his power...I've never seen ANYONE throw their whole body behind so many punches and have so much success.

#2 Balance...sure Rocky got dropped a few times, sure he got countered, but to put so much behind his punches get countered and still win 49 of 49 fights is nothing short of unbelieveable especially given that more than a few of the guys he fought were crafty enough to where their skill alone would have been enough to batter Rocky if all he was was just your run of the mill simple minded plonding power puncher.


#3 Stamina...to put so much into his punches and to take so many shots and to still have the power to detonate that right hand on Walcott after Joe's best round is amazing...to batter LaStarza into submission without really focusing on where the punches landed just how hard they landed....that's amazing.


Rocky Marciano will never be confused with Sugar Ray Robinson or Willie Pep but he was a very special, one of a kind fighter.

[Dark Lord Al]

Dempsey and Marciano were about the same size. Jess Willard was 6'6" and Dempsey certainly hurt him.

Yes we know this , but lets face it , LHW Archie Moore floored Rocky , Imagine what a left hook from one of the brothers grim would do to him.

[nikola_ganchev]

Dark Lord Al, the sisters won't be able to land such shot. Archie was genius in countering, effective punching and i am not sure that he punches lighter. And as Archie said it was really difficult to land left hook on Rocky. When he says so this is the case! Technically we can't compere the sisters with him!

This posts with being bigger makes you direct better or unbeatable boxer starts to nerv me! Why no one gives Rocky a chance? He is not smaller than Tyson or Tua, but no one says for them bah they are too smal and have no chance! We must not forget that the size is not the most important messurmant for power! Being bulked unnecessery makes you slower and destroys your stamina! As mentioned Rocky can punch as hard as the new heavyweights and can take punch as good as them! And we must not forget that he can dishes the punischment for 12 rounds! The new big guys go soft after 5 6 rounds no metter the counditoining and the inactivity!

Maybe the misconception of Rockys style comes from the modern way of boxing. All this guys boxing straight with head in the center. Yes they are all dead against the sisters because they don't box corectly! They can't move, they eat all the punches and can't punch! It doesn't come from the size but from the fondations! Rocky uses his hight and bodydistribution in his advantage. I want to see how 2+ m high man punches at about 0.9m hight with power and not knoking himself off balance!
Punching downwards is dangerous bussines! This destroys the reach and opens you for all type of counters plus the punch is not driven from the muscles!
Lets take the smal guys like Tonney and Tua. How many times do they end up beaten badly? How many times did they get hurt if not getting desperate or showing off? What does Holifield do when he is under fire? Why did Archie Moore has 221 fights and die at 85 not suffering form any mental diseases? Yes all of them know how to make themself smal
I watch explicitly Joe Louis against Primo Carnera and Vitali Klitschko Vs Odlanier Solís. Both of the tall guys boxed in the same maner and Solis did land good punches! This means that Louis would have killed him! And the way that Vitali is jabing makes him sitting duck for the Suzi Q!

[Dark Lord Al]

Dark Lord Al, the sisters won't be able to land such shot. Archie was genius in countering, effective punching and i am not sure that he punches lighter. And as Archie said it was really difficult to land left hook on Rocky. When he says so this is the case! Technically we can't compere the sisters with him!

This posts with being bigger makes you direct better or unbeatable boxer starts to nerv me! Why no one gives Rocky a chance? He is not smaller than Tyson or Tua, but no one says for them bah they are too smal and have no chance! We must not forget that the size is not the most important messurmant for power! Being bulked unnecessery makes you slower and destroys your stamina! As mentioned Rocky can punch as hard as the new heavyweights and can take punch as good as them! And we must not forget that he can dishes the punischment for 12 rounds! The new big guys go soft after 5 6 rounds no metter the counditoining and the inactivity!

Maybe the misconception of Rockys style comes from the modern way of boxing. All this guys boxing straight with head in the center. Yes they are all dead against the sisters because they don't box corectly! They can't move, they eat all the punches and can't punch! It doesn't come from the size but from the fondations! Rocky uses his hight and bodydistribution in his advantage. I want to see how 2+ m high man punches at about 0.9m hight with power and not knoking himself off balance!
Punching dawnwards is dangerous bussines! This destroys the reach and opens you for all type of counters plus the punch is not driven from the muscles!
Lets take the smal guys like Tonney and Tua. How many times do they end up beaten badly? How many times did they get hurt if not getting desperate or showing off? What does Holifield do when he is under fire? Why did Archie Moore has 221 fights and die at 85 not suffering form any mental diseases? Yes all of them know how to make themself smal
I watch explicitly Joe Louis against Primo Carnera and Vitali Klitschko Vs Odlanier Solís. Both of the tall guys boxed in the same maner and Solis did land good punches! This means that Louis would have killed him! And the way that Vitali is jabing makes him sitting duck for the Suzi Q!

You are floored in your views , but thats cool , Moore wasnt the only guy to hit Rocky easily , plus you are comparing a 39 years old Vitali to a prime Rocky , or didnt you
think before you posted ?
How about a 39 year old rocky v 39 year old Vitali ? you see my point.

[greynotsoold]

In his professional prime, Rocky was about 30. And nobody hit Rocky easily: Moore Charles, Walcott, Louis, LaStarza all said, before the fight, that he was easy to hit. After, each of them said he was a defensively good fighter.
I know that nobody believes me, but being 9' taller than a guy that fights out of a pronounced crouch, leaning away from the jab/right hand ike Marciano did would not be a walk in the park. Jabbing down wil get you hit over the top, as will reaching: you have to get low like Foster did against Dick Tiger. And you don't want to get to reaching with the right hand. Marciano would also be decidedly faster and fight at a much faster pace.
aybe that size advantage would be too much, but that same size advantage could also be a liability. And size alone is no guarantee of victory.

[nikola_ganchev]

First of all i don't know a guy that hit Rocky easy Guys that were being able to land a shot on him were real virtuos in boxing and they weren't able to land the shots with autority! We are talking about the guys like Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcot and Joe Louis. No matter of their age they were aways dangerous and as in the situation with Walcott, he got evan better.
Second i don't compare them in primes, after primes and so on. I compare them by boxing skills and physical atributes. I've picked Solis only because he was the only more notable and short boxer that Vitali has faced. In this fight you can see his abilities as boxer. You can see his technik and mistakes (which don't have to do anything with the age!)

Dark Lord Al i have some question for you. What are the advantages of taller boxer and if any how he utalize them? What are the disadvantages?

[El Kabong]

Dark Lord Al, the sisters won't be able to land such shot. Archie was genius in countering, effective punching and i am not sure that he punches lighter. And as Archie said it was really difficult to land left hook on Rocky. When he says so this is the case! Technically we can't compere the sisters with him!

This posts with being bigger makes you direct better or unbeatable boxer starts to nerv me! Why no one gives Rocky a chance? He is not smaller than Tyson or Tua, but no one says for them bah they are too smal and have no chance! We must not forget that the size is not the most important messurmant for power! Being bulked unnecessery makes you slower and destroys your stamina! As mentioned Rocky can punch as hard as the new heavyweights and can take punch as good as them! And we must not forget that he can dishes the punischment for 12 rounds! The new big guys go soft after 5 6 rounds no metter the counditoining and the inactivity!

Maybe the misconception of Rockys style comes from the modern way of boxing. All this guys boxing straight with head in the center. Yes they are all dead against the sisters because they don't box corectly! They can't move, they eat all the punches and can't punch! It doesn't come from the size but from the fondations! Rocky uses his hight and bodydistribution in his advantage. I want to see how 2+ m high man punches at about 0.9m hight with power and not knoking himself off balance!
Punching downwards is dangerous bussines! This destroys the reach and opens you for all type of counters plus the punch is not driven from the muscles!
Lets take the smal guys like Tonney and Tua. How many times do they end up beaten badly? How many times did they get hurt if not getting desperate or showing off? What does Holifield do when he is under fire? Why did Archie Moore has 221 fights and die at 85 not suffering form any mental diseases? Yes all of them know how to make themself smal
I watch explicitly Joe Louis against Primo Carnera and Vitali Klitschko Vs Odlanier Solís. Both of the tall guys boxed in the same maner and Solis did land good punches! This means that Louis would have killed him! And the way that Vitali is jabing makes him sitting duck for the Suzi Q!

Comparing Marciano to The Klitschko's isn't comparing apples to apples

An in shape Marciano weighed 185-188...an in shape Wlad weighs about 240-244, Vitali 245-250.

Rocky was roughly 5'10....Wlad 6'6, Vitali 6'8

Rocky's reach 67" ...Wlad 81", Vitali 80"

The reasons the Klitschkos win and dominate this era is because THEY box so well, not because other fighters can't box. Vitali's defense would make it virtually impossible for Rocky to hit him with Suzy Q unless there was a step ladder in the ring.

Rocky was great (my #2 Heavyweight of ALL time with Joe Louis being #1 and Ali as #3) , but saying he would demolish today's heavyweights is foolish

[generalbulldog]

Rocky was great in his time, but he's not beating any modern day great HW in a mythical matchup such as Lewis because size differential would be too much. Hell he doesn't even fill the CW limit!

[ICB]

After swimming i hit 2000 PSI fact.