What's with all these bi-polar people?

[boozeboxer]

People that are actors/artists/creative types have a greater number of mental disorders than people that are not by percentage. So that we have many that have mental disorders should be no surprise.

What is make them great at whatever art avenue they pursue also is or contributes to their mental instability.

Thoughts?

[Kev]

People that are actors/artists/creative types have a greater number of mental disorders than people that are not by percentage. So that we have many that have mental disorders should be no surprise.

What is make them great at whatever art avenue they pursue also is or contributes to their mental instability.

Thoughts?

My thought is that you should spell check your thread and edit it so that it makes sense

Onto Zeta Jones. I think we should note a few points.

Firstly, it is the media who have labelled her bi polar I don't believe she announced those words to the world.

Secondly she is a very high profile and wealthy person coping with the very real possibility of the loss of her husband. She can afford the costs of going off to a specialist centre for the kind of therepy and one to one psychological counselling that would probably be a benefit to a lot of us at times in our life if we could justify the expense.

I don't see the big deal really. It's the same as going to a spar or health retreat for a few days of detox. Most of are in no position to do such a thing, but if we were multi millionaires with no limits it would be quite common to kickstart a health plan that way.

Similarly here she was feeling down and so did this to help lift her mood,a change of scenery, chance to talk through her problems in a secure enviroment etc.

That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar' really says more about them and us than her.

[boozeboxer]

People that are actors/artists/creative types have a greater number of mental disorders than people that are not by percentage. So that we have many that have mental disorders should be no surprise.

What is make them great at whatever art avenue they pursue also is or contributes to their mental instability.

Thoughts?

My thought is that you should spell check your thread and edit it so that it makes sense

Onto Zeta Jones. I think we should note a few points.

Firstly, it is the media who have labelled her bi polar I don't believe she announced those words to the world.

Secondly she is a very high profile and wealthy person coping with the very real possibility of the loss of her husband. She can afford the costs of going off to a specialist centre for the kind of therepy and one to one psychological counselling that would probably be a benefit to a lot of us at times in our life if we could justify the expense.

I don't see the big deal really. It's the same as going to a spar or health retreat for a few days of detox. Most of are in no position to do such a thing, but if we were multi millionaires with no limits it would be quite common to kickstart a health plan that way.

Similarly here she was feeling down and so did this to help lift her mood,a change of scenery, chance to talk through her problems in a secure enviroment etc.

That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar' really says more about them and us than her.

good point Kev. I am trying to eat over lunch hour/talk on phone/write coherent posts.......

[Memphis]

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That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar'

The Sun went with 'Zeta in mental clinic'

[Kev]

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That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar'

The Sun went with 'Zeta in mental clinic'

haha the sun is truly the worst paper in the world, it's like it's written by adolescent schoolboys for other adolescent schoolboys.

[ryanman]

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That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar'

The Sun went with 'Zeta in mental clinic'

haha the sun is truly the worst paper in the world, it's like it's written by adolescent schoolboys for other adolescent schoolboys.

'BONKERS BRUNO LOCKED UP'.
hahaha, the fucking insensitivity! I remember being stunned by that. It cracks me up now though.

[Kev]

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That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar'

The Sun went with 'Zeta in mental clinic'

haha the sun is truly the worst paper in the world, it's like it's written by adolescent schoolboys for other adolescent schoolboys.

'BONKERS BRUNO LOCKED UP'.
hahaha, the fucking insensitivity! I remember being stunned by that. It cracks me up now though.

Like when they went to town on the 'disgustingly racist' Jade Goody for calling Shilpa Shetty a poppadom and in the exact same issue reported on Chinese snooker sensation Ding Jui with the headline 'Pot Noodle'

Or how their sister paper the News of the world will go undercover to expose the sordid secrets of our celebrities and make the most absurd moral judgements on them and then it turns out that they themselves are all a bunch of illegal phone tapping criminals.

I wish the judges would get tough and ban the Sun and News of the world and stop anyone who works on the papers for ever being involved in 'journalism' again.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

People that are actors/artists/creative types have a greater number of mental disorders than people that are not by percentage. So that we have many that have mental disorders should be no surprise.

What is make them great at whatever art avenue they pursue also is or contributes to their mental instability.

Thoughts?

any of you see the tv programme stephen fry did about bi-polar? An actor I know a bit about - Jeremy Brett - was also diagnosed late in life a bi-p. Lots of them are afraid of taking drugs that 'smooth' them out, they've lived a long time that way and now you want to change who they are? What if they're no longer funny? etc

[El Kabong]

People that are actors/artists/creative types have a greater number of mental disorders than people that are not by percentage. So that we have many that have mental disorders should be no surprise.

What is make them great at whatever art avenue they pursue also is or contributes to their mental instability.

Thoughts?

any of you see the tv programme stephen fry did about bi-polar? An actor I know a bit about - Jeremy Brett - was also diagnosed late in life a bi-p. Lots of them are afraid of taking drugs that 'smooth' them out, they've lived a long time that way and now you want to change who they are? What if they're no longer funny? etc

A lot of people on anti-depressants and mainly those on anti-psychotics stop taking their medicine due to side effects but also because if you look at the behavioral psychology of taking those pills a person is taking them to PREVENT symptoms rather than to subdue symptoms and well in layman's terms people take the medicine, they feel better, they decide they don't need to take the medicine OR they take the medicine, they feel the side effects, and they stop taking the medicine thinking the symptoms won't reccur.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

[0james0]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

I've got a mate who works in a nut house and I've had the pleasure of going in one once to see someone I knew who had lost the plot.

It was like walking into something out of resident evil! Zombies everywhere. Actually scared me a little. Some freaky shit!

[ryanman]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

I've got a mate who works in a nut house and I've had the pleasure of going in one once to see someone I knew who had lost the plot.

It was like walking into something out of resident evil! Zombies everywhere. Actually scared me a little. Some freaky shit!

I have been in a 'nuthouse' once to visit a relative. Everyone seemed normal. I had a nice roast dinner and apple pie. So did they. Only difference was I could leave and they couldn't. (well, not the ONLY difference, but the only visible one).

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

I've got a mate who works in a nut house and I've had the pleasure of going in one once to see someone I knew who had lost the plot.

It was like walking into something out of resident evil! Zombies everywhere. Actually scared me a little. Some freaky shit!

I have been in a 'nuthouse' once to visit a relative. Everyone seemed normal. I had a nice roast dinner and apple pie. So did they. Only difference was I could leave and they couldn't. (well, not the ONLY difference, but the only visible one).

Andrew Austin is the man. Great stories about how he took the door of the patients smoking area and the staff smoking area..how rather than trying to coax them to take there meds and take a looong 'play the game' as the other nurses did he used to roll out the trolley and ask them what they wanted today, uppers? downers? these ones are a pretty colour, two?three? how about the whole bottle?

Funny thing was they didnt argue, looked at him like he was a nutter and took their meds no problem but of course you can't act that way (why not)

how you'd get a bunch of people sitting round with the dr's & nurses, all with nothing to say being depressed for an hour. Time's up they all wander outside and start chatting about football like regular folk

how when he was observing a schizo rehab meeting - which was patting a balloon to each other (?) when he took over asked who wanted to go to the pub, they all wanted to go - cant do that they're in schizo rehab- going to the pub in clinical world = bad. patting a balloon = good rehab

[0james0]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

I've got a mate who works in a nut
house and I've had the pleasure of
going in one once to see someone I
knew who had lost the plot.
It was like walking into something
out of resident evil! Zombies
everywhere. Actually scared me a
little. Some freaky shit!

I have been in a 'nuthouse' once to
visit a relative. Everyone seemed
normal. I had a nice roast dinner
and apple pie. So did they. Only
difference was I could leave and
they couldn't. (well, not the ONLY
difference, but the only visible one).

When I went in they were all noticeably crazy. One guy was roaming the corridors asking everyone if they had seen his rabbit (he's been looking daily for 5 years but still not found it!) another women jumped out at me because I was walking on the floor and it was electrocuted! She jumped out of no where and screamed at me to get off the floor! I appreciate she was looking after me, but still, made me jump out my skin. I did decide to resist her offer of walking on chairs and continued to use the electrified floor, I explained I had rubber shoes, but she didn't seem to understand. Probably thought I was nuts!

All genuine stories, there were a couple other odd things that freaked me out on my visit, but I can't remember them now.

It was sad to see, but still bloody scary!

[greynotsoold]

I tend to be a cynic when it comes to people having mental health issues. When Britney Spears went off a couple years ago, my thought was "too much methamphetamine." Charlie Sheen finally did too much dope...Growing up, and over the years since, I've seen people do so many things that made no sense, were over the top violent etc... and it was normal to nod and wink because, you know, that individual was just too high, the drugs got the better of him, and he needed a trip back to prison to get clear. Poor folks rehab.
My parents both lived through every minute of the Great Depression, my dad fought in WW2. Maybe that influence is why I've always looked at 'mental illness' as weakness, as not being able to handle life. When "Saving Private Ryan" came out I remember telling my father that I had heard that some scenes were so graphic that vets watching it were advised to seek counseling. He scoffed at that- I didn't need counseling when I saw it for real, how is some movie supposed to upset me? An ex used to have panic attacks. My reaction was always; Fake, a play for attention.
I guess that isn't a very enlightened attitude, and that some people are chemically or genetically pre-disposed to folding up. I try to be understanding and sympathetic but inside I do still have a smirk and a sneer for those that can't cope.