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    Ortiz v Who now?
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    Ortiz all class there, Berto too. Dont think Berto has the skillsto rebound as Ortiz has though, believe if he climbs in weight he slows and it gets worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ortiz all class there, Berto too. Dont think Berto has the skillsto rebound as Ortiz has though, believe if he climbs in weight he slows and it gets worse
    Next Jeff Lacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ortiz all class there, Berto too. Dont think Berto has the skillsto rebound as Ortiz has though, believe if he climbs in weight he slows and it gets worse
    Next Jeff Lacy?
    Na. Andre is still a tremendous athlete. Put him in with Cotto, you'd see a decent match up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ortiz all class there, Berto too. Dont think Berto has the skillsto rebound as Ortiz has though, believe if he climbs in weight he slows and it gets worse
    Next Jeff Lacy?
    Na. Andre is still a tremendous athlete. Put him in with Cotto, you'd see a decent match up.
    He needs to earn it. Big time. Think at 154 Cotto wrecks him badly

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    Ortiz vs Martinez would be pretty interesting.
    Martinez was ringside on HBO Latino btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzWolf View Post
    Ortiz vs Martinez would be pretty interesting.
    Martinez was ringside on HBO Latino btw.
    He's just jumped one weight class, don't think he needs to jump two more.

    He's more likely to go after Khan, Bradley etc.

    Maybe vs Marquez a 140.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Never heard Berto speak before.... Expected him to sound far more Creole sounding
    I thought he would have more of a latino accent. I've never heard him speak either.

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    Awesome fight. The wife even loved it! Ortiz fought like a man with something to prove tonight - and the extra weight actually seemed to benefit. I really thought Berto would be the stronger of the two, but I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzWolf View Post
    Ortiz vs Martinez would be pretty interesting.
    Martinez was ringside on HBO Latino btw.
    Martinez is 170 lbs fight night while Ortiz is 161 lbs, unfair IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazzWolf View Post
    Ortiz vs Martinez would be pretty interesting.
    Martinez was ringside on HBO Latino btw.
    Martinez is 170 lbs fight night while Ortiz is 161 lbs, unfair IMO.
    It would take a lot of time and effort to make it happen, this I'm aware; but, it would be interesting to see their two styles clash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzWolf View Post
    Ortiz vs Martinez would be pretty interesting.
    Martinez was ringside on HBO Latino btw.
    What the hell? You realize this fight was at ww?

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    Enough with the Ortiz vs Martinez, they're about 2 weight classes apart and 1 guy just fought for the 1st time at WW.

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Ortiz on HBO saturday

    Really entertaining fight, despite a terrible referee.
    It didn't seem that anybody in the Berto camp had a plan of how to go about fighting this guy. He was able to counter, sometimes, the real blatant mistakes Ortiz made, but Berto is neither smart enough nor slick enough to create or exploit openings that aren't telegraphed. It was there for him all night, to take a short pivot to his right and drop the right hand, but Berto bails out right foot first and doesn't know how to fight going that way.
    Ortiz is the Truest Sign Of The Apocalypse I'm aware of: a right handed fighter turned southpaw. He constantly throws that left hand from too far away, then steps forward with his left foot leaving himself wide open. A good fighter would kill him for that. Also, he needs to improve his left hand, or tattoo "VICTIM" on his chest before thinking about fighting anybody that can fight. His feet are so far apart that he pushes that punch; its an invitation to left hook him silly.
    Good, hard fought club fight, fun to watch. World championship level? No freaking way. Any aspiring fighters that watched this, don't do anything that you saw tonight.

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    Missed this one. Gutted. Looked like a belter and I definitely didn't see that one coming!

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