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    Default Re: Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.

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    Default Re: Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He will always be vulnerable for sure but I don't see why people think he's arrogant. After his fight with McKloskey both fighters insisted they were about to knock the other out. Khan had won every single round, McKloskey none. McKloskey and his team then tell everybody they were ust about to take khan, so Khan says exactly the same back. Yet Khan is the arrogant of he two?

    Look at Degale and Groves? Is Groves arrogant for saying he will beat DeGale and responding to all the taunts?

    Pretty much everything Khan says is defensive, against his critics. He's got self belief and he's hot headed, but these are generally good qualities in a boxer.

    Most people seem to start with a dislike of him, and then interperate everything he says in a way to justify that dislike.

    If he loses to Bradley, of which they is a very real possibility, there will be a flood of people on here feeling vindication over his deserved demise, which is pretty weird really

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    Default Re: Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

    Breaking into someones hotel room to steal a contract is extremely naughty conduct and of course Khan is quite prone to saying extremely silly things, but in terms of this fight the only thing that has really bothered me is that an undefeated fighter has been stopped from for continuing for no good reason. And that in of itself is not the fault of Amir Khan, but the questionable officiating of the officials.

    I don't particularly like Amir Khan, he has never won me over in the ring and he obviously can't outside of it because his head swells up like a balloon too much. I contrast that with Ortiz who has completely won me over. He conducts himself well outside the ring and fought like a warrior inside it. That is how you win over me. Amir Khan gets it wrong on all counts every time.

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    Default Re: Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Breaking into someones hotel room to steal a contract is extremely naughty conduct and of course Khan is quite prone to saying extremely silly things, but in terms of this fight the only thing that has really bothered me is that an undefeated fighter has been stopped from for continuing for no good reason. And that in of itself is not the fault of Amir Khan, but the questionable officiating of the officials.

    I don't particularly like Amir Khan, he has never won me over in the ring and he obviously can't outside of it because his head swells up like a balloon too much. I contrast that with Ortiz who has completely won me over. He conducts himself well outside the ring and fought like a warrior inside it. That is how you win over me. Amir Khan gets it wrong on all counts every time.
    Yet there are those who think ortiz is ungrateful as well as arrogant for turning on Garcia who took him into his home, became his guardian, trained him and made him the fighter he is, only for Ortiz to publicly deride him and leave him when he became a star.

    Just pointing out how you can interperate any fighter's history to justify a dislike.

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    Default Re: Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Breaking into someones hotel room to steal a contract is extremely naughty conduct and of course Khan is quite prone to saying extremely silly things, but in terms of this fight the only thing that has really bothered me is that an undefeated fighter has been stopped from for continuing for no good reason. And that in of itself is not the fault of Amir Khan, but the questionable officiating of the officials.

    I don't particularly like Amir Khan, he has never won me over in the ring and he obviously can't outside of it because his head swells up like a balloon too much. I contrast that with Ortiz who has completely won me over. He conducts himself well outside the ring and fought like a warrior inside it. That is how you win over me. Amir Khan gets it wrong on all counts every time.
    Yet there are those who think ortiz is ungrateful as well as arrogant for turning on Garcia who took him into his home, became his guardian, trained him and made him the fighter he is, only for Ortiz to publicly deride him and leave him when he became a star.

    Just pointing out how you can interperate any fighter's history to justify a dislike.
    Like I say though, in terms of the recent fight the only thing that bothers me is the early stoppage. I haven't really noticed anything of Khan and his entourage and the whole classless scumbags thingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

    The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

    The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.
    I'm impressed with the rest of his technical analysis, how he could improve Amir's stance, accuracy and mental outlook etc.

    Do you have a big stable DogBountyHunter? Must have a made produced a few world champs in your time I reckon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

    The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.
    I'm impressed with the rest of his technical analysis, how he could improve Amir's stance, accuracy and mental outlook etc.

    Do you have a big stable DogBountyHunter? Must have a made produced a few world champs in your time I reckon?
    You don't need to have ever boxed to be a boxing expert. Just the other day I found out on here that Floyd Mayweather jr, Olympic medal winner and multi-weight unbeaten world champion, has spent his entire life breathing wrong when he throws punches.

    Just think how well Floyd could have done if he was aware of this flaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You don't need to have ever boxed to be a boxing expert. Just the other day I found out on here that Floyd Mayweather jr, Olympic medal winner and multi-weight unbeaten world champion, has spent his entire life breathing wrong when he throws punches.

    Just think how well Floyd could have done if he was aware of this flaw.
    I remember that post. Absolutely priceless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingbantz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You don't need to have ever boxed to be a boxing expert. Just the other day I found out on here that Floyd Mayweather jr, Olympic medal winner and multi-weight unbeaten world champion, has spent his entire life breathing wrong when he throws punches.

    Just think how well Floyd could have done if he was aware of this flaw.
    I remember that post. Absolutely priceless.
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    I watched the fight last night despite feeling like sh**, and Paul McCloskey was never in the fight. He was quite slick and Amir Khan didn't land many clean punches, but Paul McCloskey wasn't throwing any punches himself, except the odd jab and straight left hand. But never in combinations just one punch at a time.

    I agree with what Bilbo said in the other thread, the way the fight ended was the best Paul McCloskey could of hoped for. Because he would of just gone on to lose a very wide decision, or possibly worse because Amir Khan was landing a bit more frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

    The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.
    Maybe all that effort he put into getting up is what gassed him out?

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    By the way anybody know if there's any truth to the rumor that Con threatened to have McCrappy's house blown up?

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    Default Re: Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

    The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.
    Incorrect. The gist of my post is that he has a weak mental makeup for boxing. His physical skills are fantastic but his mental capacity does not allow him to reach the next level. for example his combinations are as fast as any fighter out there @ 140 but then he leans forward which takes out some of the power and accuracy. He can hardly relax so he is tiring more than he should be and punches are effecting him more than if he was properly relaxed.

    When he fought Maidana he was looking up at the scoreboard for time. That is an amateur move and a fighter should always be focused on his opponent at all times. If that happens in a fight it is usually a move done by the loser of the bout. We saw that on Saturday with Berto as well. Berto is another case. All the skills yet he fights on his heels flat footed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter View Post
    Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

    He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
    Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

    His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.
    He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

    The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.
    Incorrect. The gist of my post is that he has a weak mental makeup for boxing. His physical skills are fantastic but his mental capacity does not allow him to reach the next level. for example his combinations are as fast as any fighter out there @ 140 but then he leans forward which takes out some of the power and accuracy. He can hardly relax so he is tiring more than he should be and punches are effecting him more than if he was properly relaxed.

    When he fought Maidana he was looking up at the scoreboard for time. That is an amateur move and a fighter should always be focused on his opponent at all times. If that happens in a fight it is usually a move done by the loser of the bout. We saw that on Saturday with Berto as well. Berto is another case. All the skills yet he fights on his heels flat footed.
    So when can we look forward to seeing you in the ring to show these guys how it's done?

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