scrap those old coots were right! the games been on the down slope for a good while now. i blame amatue boxing. that whole system just brought ruin to the way fighting ought to be fought i say. jack dempsey even goes so far as to say the amateur program and the amateur coaches are what had destroyed boxing in his old book and this was back about -- oh, one thousand years ago if my math is right. boxing's been off for a long time.