Should Bin Laden have been taken alive?

[El Kabong]

Bilbo stop being a douchebag

And hell no why would we want Bin Laden alive? THAT would incite attacks and kidnappings etc with the crazy muslims wanting to free their zealot leader.

OBL got what he deserved...better than he deserved actually.

[Mark TKO]

THAT would incite attacks and kidnappings etc with the crazy muslims wanting to free their zealot leader.

very true. Could have been like Airforce One, Die Hard II , Toy Soldiers etc..


this outcome was for the best - though a short period in captivity and torture would have been better

[Mattyhitman]

In answer to the question: Yes.

Considering what happened to Saddam Hussien, I would of thought the same would have been done to OBL.

To show the world he had been captured and paraded on global television, then tried in court for his criminal activities would have been better imo.

Maybe the is some truth in what Bilbo is saying, who knows? and I guess we wont till the US divulges all the info regards to shooting.

Capture him, parade the capture, try him, then a public execution would have been the way I would have done it.

[porkypara]

I think in the morden world the law does not always seem to equel justice.

Bin Laden deserved to die in a horrible way and thats what he got IMO.It was justice

Also what benifit would it serve to keep him alive.All it would do is fan more extreamists when he would spout his hatred at his trail.

The SEAL team were give the nod and wink the same way the British SAS were when dealing with the IRA.Bring him in dead.

Job well done!

[Kev]

I think in the morden world the law does not always seem to equel justice.

Bin Laden deserved to die in a horrible way and thats what he got IMO.It was justice

Also what benifit would it serve to keep him alive.All it would do is fan more extreamists when he would spout his hatred at his trail.

The SEAL team were give the nod and wink the same way the British SAS were when dealing with the IRA.Bring him in dead.

Job well done!

Miles has a point though about Assange. Had the US dropped a killing squad into the mansion he was staying in and slaughtered a bunch of people there would have been an outcry.

Had the Pakistani's launched an attack on some enemy of their state on American soil they would now be facing two weeks of carpet bombing.

Also it makes the British look stupid. America send in their navy seals and kick ass, we sent our SAS into LIbya to help the rebels and they captured us and sent us packing tail between legs.

[porkypara]

I think in the morden world the law does not always seem to equel justice.

Bin Laden deserved to die in a horrible way and thats what he got IMO.It was justice

Also what benifit would it serve to keep him alive.All it would do is fan more extreamists when he would spout his hatred at his trail.

The SEAL team were give the nod and wink the same way the British SAS were when dealing with the IRA.Bring him in dead.

Job well done!

Miles has a point though about Assange. Had the US dropped a killing squad into the mansion he was staying in and slaughtered a bunch of people there would have been an outcry.

Had the Pakistani's launched an attack on some enemy of their state on American soil they would now be facing two weeks of carpet bombing.

Also it makes the British look stupid. America send in their navy seals and kick ass, we sent our SAS into LIbya to help the rebels and they captured us and sent us packing tail between legs.

The seal mission and the sas in Libya are two totaly different cases and they cant really be compaired.

If Pakistan had been willing or able to do the job they would have been left to do it.But unfortunaly Pakistan could not be trusted and the US had to do the job.

[Dizaster]

Another good question in addition to the thread title is :

"Should a photo be released to prove Bin Laden is dead?"

The fact it's been stated he was behind the worst terrorism attack on American soil ever,,, on the World's most wanted list for the better part of the last 10 years,,, had probably 100's of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money spent on finding him and his posse,,, the fact it actually TOOK America 10 years to find him,,, I think it needs to be released...

I don't really buy into any of the reasons given of why they can't provide evidence other than their word...

Assange has some work to do!

[porkypara]

Another good question in addition to the thread title is :

"Should a photo be released to prove Bin Laden is dead?"

The fact it's been stated he was behind the worst terrorism attack on American soil ever,,, on the World's most wanted list for the better part of the last 10 years,,, had probably 100's of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money spent on finding him and his posse,,, the fact it actually TOOK America 10 years to find him,,, I think it needs to be released...

I don't really buy into any of the reasons given of why they can't provide evidence other than their word...

I think Bush should take some of the blame as to why its taken so long as he started the pointless war in Iraq which made the world a more dangerouse place and made millions of new enemys for the west.Also it diverted much needed resourses from the hunt for Bin Laden.

[Hornfinger]

You can't take alive a guy that's been dead for ten years.

or one that never existed in the first place.


And even if he did exist and was stil alive, taking him alive and bringing him to justice in a fair court of law is just not the american way.

The other problem with taking him alive is you'd have to charge him for 9/11. Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....


People would find that a bit odd, and then if you did decide to try him for 9/11 you'd have to come up with some kind of evidence not to mention that bin laden may have started talking and showing up more inconsistancies in the official story.

Nope it's better to kill off the boogie man in a blaze of Hollywood movie style bravado, that the american people lap up like a thirsty dog on a hot day.

Just when Obama's approval rating is at the lowest of any american president at this point in a term, just when Obama needs to show he's a leader, just as he's about to start a re election campeign. and now he's off to ground zero to grand stand and no doubt give an emotional and rousing speech about 'getting the job done' or some other 'mission accomplished' style propaganda bullshit.


The whole thing is so absurdly comical to me, that people actually believe and buy into this crap.


My final thoughts.....

If the US went into afghanistan to get bin laden how come they are still there now that the guy is dead?

Doesn't the fact that they 'found' him in Pakistan make the last 10 years of blood shed pointless? (setting aside the real agenda which was to secure oil, opium and lithium) Surely anyone with half a brain should be asking what the real agenda is.

One of the most technologically advanced milliataries with one of the biggest budgets in the world took ten years to find one guy living in a mansion in Pakistan? But hold on they didn't, it was his next door neigbours twitter feed that gave the game away. That doesn't sound the remotest bit ludicris to any of you?

After killing bin laden the corpse is thrown in the sea and the pictures are too disgusting? Just take our word for it we got him? Really?

The media and government have got it so easy. They don't even need to try anymore. People will believe ANYTHING!

[AdamGB]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

[Hornfinger]

Now the problem with that is the FBI never held him responsible for 9/11 in the first place.

FBI — Ten Most Wanted And his name is spelt differently....

Jesus Christ...



You do know that the name isn't actually spelt using the English alphabet... it's Arabic and there is no official English translation... a lot of people say Osama and a lot of people INCLUDING THE FBI and CIA say Usama

Out of all the things mentioned in my post you pick up a descrepency on spelling

[El Kabong]

"The problem with Arabic is that its difficult to read" - OSS 117

[AdamGB]

أسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن‎

[El Kabong]

When shit goes down in the world its the US that has to step up and make things right because apparently nobody else has the cojones.

Osama at the Hague? Yeah that would have gone over well....he'd sit back and spout his hate and invite attacks on the courtroom.

Also one doesn't need a gun to be considered "armed"....I mean these guys are known for blowing themselves up so the shoot first ask questions later tactic is perfectly fine by me.

Miles, you are such a fucking pansy when it comes to this kind of thing....its people like you that get dodge ball banned in school....God almighty you are a wuss.

I'm just stoked that #1 Obama had the guts to call for this (if botched that would have been extremely bad, like the U2 spy plane shot down over the USSR bad) and #2 hearing about all the super cool spy shit we have! Obama and his cabinet watched the raid in Washington just like the movie 'Patriot Games' when they raid the IRA compound! And the Stealth helicopter is pretty fucking awesome too.

We got in and out like a bunch of roided up ninjas! They never fucking knew what hit them.....BOOYA son!

[VictorCharlie]

This thread is what I imagine an Oliver Stone brain storming session is like. Seriously some of yall need to go into script writing b/c the international intrigue and mystery is scintillating.