Sorry not boxing but Bin Laden is dead.

[Gandalf]

Miles I dare you to go to that bar with the Marines and start talking politics like you do on here. Triple dog dare you. If you dont have the balls to say the stuff your saying here in public, is anyone really supposed to take you serious? Actually I think your just trolling, you and Bilbo are troll kings. I would be certain of it but you guys post like paragraphs upon paragraphs of demented rambling.

I wouldn't talk politics with drunken people who earn their money from the military industrial complex. Their world view is bound to be quite different from my own. Of course they are going to think it right to assasinate people. Of course they are going to think it acceptable to invade countries illegally. You don't question, you just do, you are getting paid to follow orders. On the whole you are not dealing with intellectuals, you are dealing with relatively uneducated people who are being asked to carry out tasks come what may. That is a generalisation, there are exceptions, but is pretty much the norm.

There may be decent people, but it wouldn't be wise to denounce your government and society. You would likely be weeded out. Bradley Manning has been weeded out and is dealing with the consequences. It doesn't pay to be in the military and have an overriding sense of morality. You want to get paid, you just do your work.

I believe everything that I am saying on here. If there is a hole in any of my arguments then feel free to point them out to me. I don't say these things to be provocative, I say them because I look at the evidence and respond accordingly. I am not a troll, but do feel free to argue as I see fit. There are no restrictions and so I type at will. I'm just enjoying myself.

[No Contest]

Ok, fine but if you dont stand up for what you believe in even in the face of an ass kicking then you must not be that committed to your cause is what I'm saying. Shit you must be able to convince them with your dazzling intellect right, rationalize the shit out of them, even if yours is only a moral victory?

[Gandalf]

Ok, fine but if you dont stand up for what you believe in even in the face of an ass kicking then you must not be that committed to your cause is what I'm saying. Shit you must be able to convince them with your dazzling intellect right, rationalize the shit out of them, even if yours is only a moral victory?

Kind of true, but I only went out one night. It would be a bit weird to go out there and just talk hardcore politics to relative strangers. Usually it's just playing some pool and small talk. I keep the more serious stuff for people who I am closer to and have warmed to. I view the hidden board here as my living room. Anyone is free to serve themselves a drink and anything goes.

[marbleheadmaui]

Miles I dare you to go to that bar with the Marines and start talking politics like you do on here. Triple dog dare you. If you dont have the balls to say the stuff your saying here in public, is anyone really supposed to take you serious? Actually I think your just trolling, you and Bilbo are troll kings. I would be certain of it but you guys post like paragraphs upon paragraphs of demented rambling.

I wouldn't talk politics with drunken people who earn their money from the military industrial complex. Their world view is bound to be quite different from my own. Of course they are going to think it right to assasinate people. Of course they are going to think it acceptable to invade countries illegally. You don't question, you just do, you are getting paid to follow orders. On the whole you are not dealing with intellectuals, you are dealing with relatively uneducated people who are being asked to carry out tasks come what may. That is a generalisation, there are exceptions, but is pretty much the norm.

There may be decent people, but it wouldn't be wise to denounce your government and society. You would likely be weeded out. Bradley Manning has been weeded out and is dealing with the consequences. It doesn't pay to be in the military and have an overriding sense of morality. You want to get paid, you just do your work.

I believe everything that I am saying on here. If there is a hole in any of my arguments then feel free to point them out to me. I don't say these things to be provocative, I say them because I look at the evidence and respond accordingly. I am not a troll, but do feel free to argue as I see fit. There are no restrictions and so I type at will. I'm just enjoying myself.

You SERIOUSLY don't have a clue about the norm in today's US military and you ESPECIALLY don't have a clue just how gifted the elite Special Forces Groups are. They are the most technically proficient, have displayed the best judgement and their inventiveness (problem solving ability) is a key trait. He also must be able to teach his skills to others. Specifically the upper end of the Special Forces are usually in their 30's and 40's. Theya re enormously experienced. Talk to members of the US military in those branches or at least do some reading before you say such indefensible things.

Brad Manning committed treason. He may have done so as a matter of conscience, but it is undeniably Treason by the Constitutional definition.