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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

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    Boxing - Lacy to fight MMA star Diaz

    Lacy is way past it but still kicks this guys ass for me!

    diaz will probably take a decision sadly, such a meaningless fight and the only thing that can possibly come from it is diaz coming closer to the end of his chin (i dont think lacy can KO him, but he hits way harder than anyone in mma, and u can only take so many punches before ur chin is eventually shot, at least when u just let people hit you)


    diaz KOs lacy and it means nothing - lacy KOs diaz it does nothing for lacy and diaz loses no momentum in mma, a decision for either is just as meaningless


    i think this is an attempt by diazto get himself a big payday in mma, hes getting payed a decent amount for this fight
    Okay that may be the stupidest thing I've ever read on his site. You mean to say Jeff Lacy can hit harder than anyone in MMA? You mean to say the heavyweights the light heavyweights in MMA cannot hit harder than Jeff Lacy? Chuck Liddell, Cain velasquez, Brock Lesner, Shane Carwin, hell even welterweights like Paul Daley. There's hundreds of thousands of MMA fighters out there but not one of them can punch harder than Jeff Lacy?

    lol, noone near whatever weight WW is in mma hits NEAR as hard as lacy, its not even close, most mma guys barely knows how to throw punches, and i meant P4P (obviously) but are u seriously trying to tell me that paul daley has ANYTHING on lacy when it comes to just raw punching power?


    daley wears mma gloves and wings wild ugly poorly thrown hooks, lacy at one point was a very dangerous puncher who know how to throw a left hook correctly, he may only have 1 round worth of trying left in him but that 1 round is WAY more than anything daley can do


    on top of that velasquez doesnt even hit that hard, nogueira was a complete zombie by the time he fought velasquez and carwin doesnt even know how to throw a punch


    if u wanna make a pointless argument at least mention a HW that can somewhat box, like if u said overeem or kharitanov but u seriously used carwin?

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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

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    Boxing - Lacy to fight MMA star Diaz

    Lacy is way past it but still kicks this guys ass for me!

    diaz will probably take a decision sadly, such a meaningless fight and the only thing that can possibly come from it is diaz coming closer to the end of his chin (i dont think lacy can KO him, but he hits way harder than anyone in mma, and u can only take so many punches before ur chin is eventually shot, at least when u just let people hit you)


    diaz KOs lacy and it means nothing - lacy KOs diaz it does nothing for lacy and diaz loses no momentum in mma, a decision for either is just as meaningless


    i think this is an attempt by diazto get himself a big payday in mma, hes getting payed a decent amount for this fight
    Okay that may be the stupidest thing I've ever read on his site. You mean to say Jeff Lacy can hit harder than anyone in MMA? You mean to say the heavyweights the light heavyweights in MMA cannot hit harder than Jeff Lacy? Chuck Liddell, Cain velasquez, Brock Lesner, Shane Carwin, hell even welterweights like Paul Daley. There's hundreds of thousands of MMA fighters out there but not one of them can punch harder than Jeff Lacy?

    lol, noone near whatever weight WW is in mma hits NEAR as hard as lacy, its not even close, most mma guys barely knows how to throw punches, and i meant P4P (obviously) but are u seriously trying to tell me that paul daley has ANYTHING on lacy when it comes to just raw punching power?


    daley wears mma gloves and wings wild ugly poorly thrown hooks, lacy at one point was a very dangerous puncher who know how to throw a left hook correctly, he may only have 1 round worth of trying left in him but that 1 round is WAY more than anything daley can do


    on top of that velasquez doesnt even hit that hard, nogueira was a complete zombie by the time he fought velasquez and carwin doesnt even know how to throw a punch


    if u wanna make a pointless argument at least mention a HW that can somewhat box, like if u said overeem or kharitanov but u seriously used carwin?
    Okay your obviously slow so let me break it down for you.

    A) You don't even know the weight limit for the MMA welterweight devision so to comment and say no one hits as hard as Jeff Lacy in it is ludicrous! In your words "lol".

    B)You meant p4p obviously thats why you wrote it! Oh wait...

    C)Yes. I am seriously trying to tell you that Paul Daley has 'something' on Lacy as I've never seen Lacy hit someone so hard they face plant into the canvas nor have i heard of any of his opponents having to have surgery due to one of his punches (Dustin Hazlett).

    D)When was this argument about how punches are thrown or who is the best boxer? It wasn't this is strictly about power so the pretty much shits all over your argument.

    E)Velasquez doesn't hit that hard..you kidding me? Anyone who can KO someone with one punch hits hard. You've been blinded by Jeff Lacys saggy ball sack in your face!

    F)A pointless argument? A pointless argument would be questioning your anal virginity which we all ready know Jeff Lacy has taken from you. Like i said before this isn't about boxing its about power and as it goes your statement about MMA fighter not having the same power or dare is say it more power than Jeff Lacy is wrong.

    Please Overeem is a kickboxer. K1 ring any bells?
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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

    Lacy will knock him out within 3 rounds.

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    Im not sure whether Lacy does hit harder than anyone in MMA...he hasnt knocked anyone out in a while. No doubt Wlad Klit would hit harder than ANYONE in MMA, put 4 ounce gloves on him and see the damage that would be done. The question is does Diaz hit hard enough with bigger gloves?
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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

    Interesting matchup if it happens. On recent form I'd take Diaz by one sided decision. Wouldn't surprise me if the referee stops it in the middke rounds.

    It's a bit sad to see that some boxing diehards are still deluded about the quality of fighters in MMA. Diaz is a dangerous fighter, and when this happens I expect him to be too fast, too big and have too much in the tank for Lacy, who infairness should be retired by now.

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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Interesting matchup if it happens. On recent form I'd take Diaz by one sided decision. Wouldn't surprise me if the referee stops it in the middke rounds.

    It's a bit sad to see that some boxing diehards are still deluded about the quality of fighters in MMA. Diaz is a dangerous fighter, and when this happens I expect him to be too fast, too big and have too much in the tank for Lacy, who infairness should be retired by now.
    I personally have watched MMA since UFC 1. I have watched MMA wayyyy before it was the hip popular cool thing that it is now. I like MMA a good deal, but I love boxing. I have long trained at an MMA gym, I have a good deal of respect for mma fighters, but Nick Diaz is just not a quality 10 round professional boxer. He simply does not have the experience, the power, or the skill in boxing.

    Club fighters tear Nick and Nate Diaz up at Kings Boxing Gym in Oakland, CA.

    Thats a fact.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Interesting matchup if it happens. On recent form I'd take Diaz by one sided decision. Wouldn't surprise me if the referee stops it in the middke rounds.

    It's a bit sad to see that some boxing diehards are still deluded about the quality of fighters in MMA. Diaz is a dangerous fighter, and when this happens I expect him to be too fast, too big and have too much in the tank for Lacy, who infairness should be retired by now.
    You for real Bilbo? On recent form what form has Diaz got he is not a boxer?? Lacy maybe shot to pieces but he is an ex world champ who is still only what 31/32? I would put the house on someone like Tony Dodson an average past it British top ten fighter to beat the shit out of Nick Diaz. Lacy will beat the shit out of him one million percent.

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    I think Diaz gets some false confidence out of the fact he spars with Andre Ward and he claims to be able to get the better of him occasionally. When in actual fact I heard Ward just plays with him.
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    Default Re: Fight Confirmed. Jeff Lacy to take on MMA star Diaz!

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
    Im not sure whether Lacy does hit harder than anyone in MMA...he hasnt knocked anyone out in a while. No doubt Wlad Klit would hit harder than ANYONE in MMA, put 4 ounce gloves on him and see the damage that would be done. The question is does Diaz hit hard enough with bigger gloves?
    How on earth can you know? Do you know every fighter in MMA? Do you know the level of there power? You can't possibly make accusations like that without the facts. We would have to do a some form of power test to see if that would be true. It's just crazy.
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    Guys you wanna put this argument to bed? ok....We can all agree tat anderson silva is much better striker than nick diazo..correct? ok go watch his boxing match, he looked like shit against a shitty opponent, now watch how diazo is gonna look, i feel like this fight will have a positive effect on diaz mma carreer thou, he will sharpen up and be close to a real boxer because thats what most guys are lacking in mma, and please don't compare paul dally to lacy, the guy is NOT a good boxer, he is a good puncher, he knows how to throw punches, he does not know how to box...now if diazo has fought lacy a while ago, he would have got knocked the fuck out, but now i think lacy will just win a decision or maybe plant him a good one a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    Guys you wanna put this argument to bed? ok....We can all agree tat anderson silva is much better striker than nick diazo..correct? ok go watch his boxing match, he looked like shit against a shitty opponent, now watch how diazo is gonna look, i feel like this fight will have a positive effect on diaz mma carreer thou, he will sharpen up and be close to a real boxer because thats what most guys are lacking in mma, and please don't compare paul dally to lacy, the guy is NOT a good boxer, he is a good puncher, he knows how to throw punches, he does not know how to box...now if diazo has fought lacy a while ago, he would have got knocked the fuck out, but now i think lacy will just win a decision or maybe plant him a good one a few times.
    I seriously don't know what drugs some people have been taking mate, especially Bilbo

    I would expect are very own Youngblood to put a beat down on Nick Diaz never mind an experienced e x world champion!!
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    Im not sure whether Lacy does hit harder than anyone in MMA...he hasnt knocked anyone out in a while. No doubt Wlad Klit would hit harder than ANYONE in MMA, put 4 ounce gloves on him and see the damage that would be done. The question is does Diaz hit hard enough with bigger gloves?
    How on earth can you know? Do you know every fighter in MMA? Do you know the level of there power? You can't possibly make accusations like that without the facts. We would have to do a some form of power test to see if that would be true. It's just crazy.
    Dont get your panties in a bunch mate. But lets be serious...you really think that Overeem, Brock Lesnar, Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velazquez could hit harder than Wlad. Some of these guys couldnt get knock outs with 4 ounce gloves, Wlad gets them all the time with 8 ounces gloves. What the fuck does that tell you? The hardest puncher I just mentioned would probably be JDS and he couldnt even finish Roy Nelson in a fight that was mostly standing. What do you think Wlad would of done to Roy Nelson if he landed repeated punches with 4 ounce gloves? What your saying is like...Do you know every boxer in the world, they may have better ju jitsu or wrestling you just dont know. Well lets work on whats more likely, a guy whos sport is to punch and has an extremely high knockout record with it is probably going to be better at it then someone whos sport is to punch, kick, wrestle, grapple (ju jitsu).

    Most MMA fighters dont even have a proper boxing stance, they have wider stance and are more square so they have a better chance of stopping a takedown. Even Dana White says that boxing is completely different. Next thing your going to tell me is that these guys could of hit harder than Mike Tyson in his prime.

    Im not even anti MMA, I buy every PPV, Ive seen the UFC live...i like watching it, I am a MMA fan. But lets be real: boxings hardest puncher would punch harder than MMAs...boxers technique is way better than an MMA punchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
    Dont get your panties in a bunch mate. But lets be serious...you really think that Overeem, Brock Lesnar, Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velazquez could hit harder than Wlad. Some of these guys couldnt get knock outs with 4 ounce gloves, Wlad gets them all the time with 8 ounces gloves. What the fuck does that tell you? The hardest puncher I just mentioned would probably be JDS and he couldnt even finish Roy Nelson in a fight that was mostly standing. What do you think Wlad would of done to Roy Nelson if he landed repeated punches with 4 ounce gloves?

    Also, Wlad is knocking out people who know how to defend punches. Put any of Wlads championship knockout/stoppage victims in with any of those MMA names under boxing rules with 10 ounce gloves and watch how powerfull their punches are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
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    Im not sure whether Lacy does hit harder than anyone in MMA...he hasnt knocked anyone out in a while. No doubt Wlad Klit would hit harder than ANYONE in MMA, put 4 ounce gloves on him and see the damage that would be done. The question is does Diaz hit hard enough with bigger gloves?
    How on earth can you know? Do you know every fighter in MMA? Do you know the level of there power? You can't possibly make accusations like that without the facts. We would have to do a some form of power test to see if that would be true. It's just crazy.
    Dont get your panties in a bunch mate. But lets be serious...you really think that Overeem, Brock Lesnar, Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velazquez could hit harder than Wlad. Some of these guys couldnt get knock outs with 4 ounce gloves, Wlad gets them all the time with 8 ounces gloves. What the fuck does that tell you? The hardest puncher I just mentioned would probably be JDS and he couldnt even finish Roy Nelson in a fight that was mostly standing. What do you think Wlad would of done to Roy Nelson if he landed repeated punches with 4 ounce gloves? What your saying is like...Do you know every boxer in the world, they may have better ju jitsu or wrestling you just dont know. Well lets work on whats more likely, a guy whos sport is to punch and has an extremely high knockout record with it is probably going to be better at it then someone whos sport is to punch, kick, wrestle, grapple (ju jitsu).

    Most MMA fighters dont even have a proper boxing stance, they have wider stance and are more square so they have a better chance of stopping a takedown. Even Dana White says that boxing is completely different. Next thing your going to tell me is that these guys could of hit harder than Mike Tyson in his prime.

    Im not even anti MMA, I buy every PPV, Ive seen the UFC live...i like watching it, I am a MMA fan. But lets be real: boxings hardest puncher would punch harder than MMAs...boxers technique is way better than an MMA punchers.
    They have the appropriate stance for the sport they are in. I think when Diaz boxes he is pretty likely to adopt a boxing stance no?

    You are arguing against your own point. It's like arguing that you can run faster than a runner when he's running 26 miles and you're running 100 metres.

    Chances are good that if the marathon runner was sprinting with you he'd run at a different pace.

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