Was Paquiao/Mosley a success?

[GAME]

All in all I think the thread is a no brainer. I guess I was just disheartened to see Mosley so timid and gunshy, but I guess we already knew that he had become like this after the last two fights. The Margarito showing really was the last hurrah. This fight was never intended to be anything more than what it was. Both fighters used their names and got a massive payday.

I don't begrudge Mosley a final payday, but just wish that he was able to go out on his shield a little more. In 12 rounds he barely opened up at all. I have never seen Mosley on his bicycle like that, round after round. I guess it shows how far he has slipped. He still has a good brain and was doing the right things to nullify Pac, but you expect that of an experienced fighter.

A Mosley at 32 against a Manny of 32 is a much better fight. As it stands Mosley at 39 against a Pac of 32 was never likely to be a success. Only the Arum and the fighters can be truly content with what we saw.

Team Pac cant be wise after the event. They gave this opportunity to Shane knowing full well the old man couldnt fight anymore. He couldnt even beat a TV reality star in his last fight. They expect him to walk straight onto Mannys punches just to make the Flip look good? Nope Shane just came to pick up his paycheque and gave a massive farewell "up yours" to the gyus who gave him this opportunity that he didnt deserve.

Shane has 2 long decades of wars behind him and wasnt going to add further miles to his clock just to make it an exciting fight. The crowd were booing and even left the arena during the fight. The whole point of teh fight for Pac was to do summat Floyd couldnt do which was stop Shane. Pac didnt do that and even had to take a count himself so in that respect it was mission accomplished for Shane. His tactics didnt suggest he ever wanted to do anymore than that and it appeared he could make Pac miss effortlessly.

Floyd must be licking his lips at the prospect but must be hoping Marquez doesnt beat him to it.

[Gandalf]

It will certainly alter a lot of peoples thoughts on Floyd/Manny. My mind is definitely flip flopping. Pac didn't look particularly good against a man who fought pretty scared from the 3rd onwards. Now if Manny can't go after an old Mosley who is not known for fighting so cautiously, couldn't nail a Cotto who decided to stick and move, then how is he going to do it against Floyd? Floyd is the master of this kind of thing.

Pac/Cotto had me thinking he had all the tools, but what I have seen since has calmed me down somewhat. If there is anything to make Floyd sign the fight then it is this one. And I don't believe for a minute that Pac looked bad just to lure Floyd in and dazzle him when they meet. Manny might be losing a step himself.

[TheMacMagician]

That had to be one the the greatest examples of Gun Shy I've ever seen. Dreadful. Was really willing Manny to smoke him in the end. Movement takes away Manny's effectiveness almost altogether though and he just couldn't get off well enough.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

This fight was a lot like the 2nd Barrera fight in that the guy infront of him was making an art form out of not engaging. I am starting t ponder the thought of a third Marquez fight, just so I can see that beautiful left-uppercut come into play. No one else uses it

Also, I'm more convinced now that Floyd would beat Manny if they fought.

[Snakey]

Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

[Gandalf]

Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

[imp]

the fight was disgrace! moseley made me sick when he kept touching gloes with pac and hugging him at the end. he came to pick up a check and that was it..he should retire and manny should fight a decent opponent for once in his life. floyd and manny are as bad as each other for not fighting each other

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

I disagree. He looked like he wanted to win before he go dropped, his head was clear but check out his legs. He was wary of that straight hand and fair enough, he could have done more but what he should stand there and look to get stopped because armchair warriors didn't see blood. Tough shit.

[Gocougars3]

Shane was prepared but was surprised by Manny's speed and power.

We can argue over who would win Paquiao/Mayweather. I love Pacquiao but understand it could go either way. One thing we can't argue over is why this fight hasn't happened. Look at the two fighters, their approach and their character, and try to make an argument that Floyd is not the problem. Even Mayweather's most ardent fans, some being my good friends, have to admit Mayweather is a spineless, gutless, egomaniac that hasn't fought in years and that he will only fight Manny if he sees enough flaws and slippage. Manny didn't look his best and we all know that is the only reason this fight could possibly be made.

Manny is better defensively than he once was, probably a result of Beltran, Khan, Porter, et al.

[THE THIRD MAN]

The fight went as expected, it was a shut out. Pacman either fights Floyd or retires IMO, all other match ups are a waste of time for fans.

[ElTerribleMorales]

complete crap of a fight, and proved nothing else, the stars of the show were Vazquez Jr and Arce, Arce being the one who really shined last night

[Beanflicker]

I don't know how anyone (outside of massive Pac nuthuggers) could call this a success.

It was a dumb fight to begin with, given Mosley's past two fights he had absolutely no reason to be in the ring with Pac, and the only way Pac could salvage some kind of moral victory would have been to completely destroy Mosley and be the first one to knock him out.

Awful fight.

[rick3262]

I don't know how anyone (outside of massive Pac nuthuggers) could call this a success.

It was a dumb fight to begin with, given Mosley's past two fights he had absolutely no reason to be in the ring with Pac, and the only way Pac could salvage some kind of moral victory would have been to completely destroy Mosley and be the first one to knock him out.

Awful fight.

He completely destroyed Mosley, to the point that Mosley turned and ran like a scared little Mayweather and got knocked flat on his butt. After this, your boy Mayweather isn't going to fight Manny. He took a chance on the over-the-hill Mosley and nearly got knocked on his butt. He isn't going to take that risk against Manny.

[Mars_ax]

I don't know how anyone (outside of massive Pac nuthuggers) could call this a success.

It was a dumb fight to begin with, given Mosley's past two fights he had absolutely no reason to be in the ring with Pac, and the only way Pac could salvage some kind of moral victory would have been to completely destroy Mosley and be the first one to knock him out.

Awful fight.

Seriously, what did anyone really expect, Mosley looked like shit against Mayweather and Mora, so why would anyone believe he'd look any better against Pacquiao?

[Boxer4life]

in my mind there is a couple tinges that i think made the fight suck

From Mosely

He suffers the same thing ll old fighters suffer from, the diminish more mentally then they do physically, he just could not pull the trigger

Plus i think the headbutt followed by the knockdown, brought bah demons form the forrest fight and he jumped onhis bicycle

From manny

he seemed to have an off night, most fighters have an off night because the guy there fighting makes it so, this was not the case, they said manny was superstitious (has to goin the same car, same people etc etc,) i think that fender messed him a lil if u ask me, he didn't look as relaxed as he normally is

Plus he mentioned his legs, dunno what thats about, hope he is not getting old, but he said he suffered the same problem during marquez. Maybe we were witnessing manny without juice? jk..

This is all sad really because i picked shane to win, and honestly i am very disappointed, i feel he should have fought for greatness, he fought for a check, now outta of spite i am gonna go sleep with his girl