Opinion from a "Pactard"

[Chino]

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

[Julius Rain]

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

The win itself does little to add to pacs resume but the fact that pac dropped and had Shane worried of getting ko'ed adds on to pacs ring reputation.

[Chino]

Dont let these fools get to you man. They will discredit pac no matter what

Pactards discredit Floyd too. Remember when he fought Shane first? Now Pac fights an older Shane and pactards make it sound as if he beat the greatest ever.

It goes both ways for Floyd and Manny unfortunately.

Who is saying pac beat the greatest ever? can you post that here for all of us to see?

Not the exact words but you guys make it seem as if SSM was a good opponent from past threads. I didn't even give Floyd that much credit for beating SSM. Tell me, do you think Pac deserves credit for beating an aging down-the-hill big name (SSM)?

The win itself does little to add to pacs resume but the fact that pac dropped and had Shane worried of getting ko'ed adds on to pacs ring reputation.

Yes, an aging down-the-hill guy getting worried of getting ko-ed. I'll give you that, he was on survival mode for 12 rounds. He only threw an effective straight right on round 1 that connected pac to his chin but didn't follow up or throw anything else after that.

[CutMeMick]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

[Kev]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

[killersheep]

haha, man it's kinda sad that ya'll need to console each other after your boy won.

Anywho, SSM blew it as expected huffin, puffin gun shy.

I don't hold what happened in the ropes against Pac at all, he had an unwilling dance partner. The choice of opponent it must be said was a waste of time. Pac has done amazing things in his time feats unparalleled by anyone else in the history of boxing, THIS fight however had nothing to do with that.

[killersheep]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Agreed, they were all waste of time fights, except JMM/Casamayor had less evidence and Marquez didn't have the options of Calzaghe or Pac.

[Kev]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Agreed, they were all waste of time fights, except JMM/Casamayor had less evidence and Marquez didn't have the options of Calzaghe or Pac.

I think both were more shot than Shane. Casa lost virtually every round to Santa Cruz a C level fighter. Shane had only lost to Floyd.

I dont see any as waste of time fights really. These guys work hard to get to the top and when there they like to amke some money for their retirements by fighting each other.

Nobody complained when Cotto fought Mayorga or Marquez rematched Katsidis.

The bar for Manny is set extremely high. It seems like only Marquez or Martinez will satisfy his detractors but even then only if Manny goes into their weight classes.

The excpectations of him are unrealistic which is not really surprising as the wish of his detractors is to see him lose...

[marbleheadmaui]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Agreed, they were all waste of time fights, except JMM/Casamayor had less evidence and Marquez didn't have the options of Calzaghe or Pac.

Wait a minute, Casamyor was, at the time, the legit 135 champion of the world! Was he past his best? Yup. But he's STILL the man! NOTHING wrong with that fight.

[CutMeMick]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Which why I thought RJJ vs. Calzaghe was shit.
I never gave Cal any credit for that.
A worthless fight.

As for JMM-Casa well how wrong can you be.
Casa was the lineal champ so the fight was meaningful.
Not to mention Casa at least showed up to fight.
SSM showed up more because of contract and not so much to fight.

[JonesJrMayweather]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Disagree, JC gave RJJ a nice asswhooping, and caused him to bleed horribly. And RJJ had never bled in the ring before that fight.

[ross]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Hold on! How old was Calzaghe when he fought Jones compared to Pacquiao v Mosley?

[JonesJrMayweather]

More of a general comment/question.

Is it discrediting if you never thought the opponent belonged there in the 1st place.
At the very moment the fight was announced?

Manny fighting Shane is no worse than Calzaghe fighting Roy Jones or Marquez fighting Casamayor the only difference being that Manny dominated his guy more than the other two did.

Hold on! How old was Calzaghe when he fought Jones compared to Pacquiao v Mosley?

It's not about real life age, its about boxing age, and Jones was shot to shit by the time JC got to him as was Mosely, the Margarito fight made everyone delusional. He was shane's last hoorah but stylistically he never had chance and a younger shane would have obliterated him earlier.

Jones had been kayoed twice, lost UD, and had wins over sheika and hanshaw before the calzaghe fight. He was shot.

Mosely was 1-2-1 before the pac fight, and to mention that PAC's own trainer before the fight was made said "shane needs to retire"

[Saddo]

Just watched it and I really think Mosleys power play a factor in manny's pace but apart from that Manny won every round and scored a KD... not alot more he could have done considering the massive size difference.

the fight lacked the excitment of a pac fight but you have to put into prespective of what he's doing here

[Mars_ax]

It's an OK win for Pacquiao, but not however, very competitive, entertaining, or exciting. I wish the fight had never been made in the first place, Mosley had just come off 2 stinkers with Mayweather and Mora, so his performance was predictable. I thought right from the get go, that there was never a question about Pacquiao winning, but whether or not he stopped Mosley.