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    Default Re: This is dedicated to ALL of you who said SSM was a worthy opponent...

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    A third fight with Marquez would be good, but it always seems to vome with caveats, especially that Manny should be a man and fight Marquez at his ideal weight which makes no sesne to me.

    I can't think of any other fighter in history who has had fans saying that he must move back down two weight classes, to fight a man he has already beat in order to prove himself.

    If the fight happens then cleary it's Marquezs job to come and wtake Mannys welterweight title not the other way around.

    I dont see it being competitive considering how much Marquez has struggled lately against B level opposition in Katsidis, Diaz and Casamayor for example.

    I think he gets wrecked by Manny in a third fight unless Manny goes down to 135 but why would he do that? Where is the clamour for Martinez to prove himself and give up his middleweight crown to fight Manny at 147?

    If Manny carries on and doesnt fight Floyd I think he needs to stay at welter, which means Marquez must move up if he wants the fight.

    The only fan friendly fights I can see for Manny really are Ortiz and Maidana both of which would do well on HBO I'd imagine. Goldenboy and Arum not working together really takes a big shit on any good fights being made though.

    If not Floyd I'd like to see Manny fight Maidana. I think he kills him but it sure would be fun to watch for a few rounds.
    There can be no question but that the most legacy rich option for Manny is to try to make 135 and beat JMM there. Why? It is at this point JMM's highest optimal weight. It gives JMM every advantage and if Manny beats him there? It can never be questioned. Secondly, it would give Manny a fifth THE MAN championship.

    We have seen JMM above 135 and it wasn't Floyd who made him slow and lethargic. It was the extra weight. He just isn't the same guy. Heck, my bet is JMM could make 130 without trouble if he wanted.

    The reason this matters in a way that a Sergio-Manny matchup doesn't is because of the past history of these two.
    I'm pretty sure you've been at other boxing forums and the response is the same, some guys just won't be credited like Manny and Floyd. Let's just say hypothetically Manny does make 135 and beat JMM. Do you know what the criticism will be? He fought an old JMM that was long in the tooth, even though he himself isn't exactly some spring chicken with close to 60 fights. Meh.

    To get that 5th lineal title he can still do it, but it would have to be at 147 and against Floyd which is a possiblity.

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    Default Re: This is dedicated to ALL of you who said SSM was a worthy opponent...

    I think the guy who started this thread should be banned for a month for thinking this would be Pac's hardest fight.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...oing-face.html

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    Default Re: This is dedicated to ALL of you who said SSM was a worthy opponent...

    going up in weight will do JMM no good at all.

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