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    With such a talented fighter such as Jones it is mind boggling that he was never a lineal champ! Kind of reminds me of Donaire, an extremely gifted fighter that has yet been a lineal champ.

    And most boxing fans and historians just go with the lineal title anyways. I mean when John Ruiz gets to claim he was a HW champ like Ali and Louis, then you know the alphabet titles don't mean shit.
    If I'm not mistaken I do believe Donaire is the Bantamweight lineal champion at this moment
    I think the last guy who clearly was that was probably the guy who beat Gaby Canizales who beat Sandoval who beat Jeff Chandler who beat Sol;is who beat Lujan who beat Zamora who beat I dunno. Paningo? From Columbia? Maybe Venezuela? I think (could be wrong) he retired.

    I think one could argue pretty convincingly that Rafael Marquez did enough to begin a new line, but he never lost and moved up too. So THEN who are we left with? Hawsegawa? I guess the question is do you think he did enough to start a new line. He had big wins over Sahaprom, but Sahaprom had never faced Raffy and I think was the weaker beltholder in terms of competition faced. So I don't think Nonito gets there...YET.

    But I think the winner of Nonito the Mares/Agbeko victor is going to have a pretty good claim.
    Paningo was from Venezuela. He actually moved up to featherweight. He didn't retire. And yes he was the one who had last the lineal title. But again it depends how one continues the line. Some consider the title to still be vacant. Which is fair enough. Others continued the line when Veerapol Sahaprom stopped Joichiro Tatsuyoshi. Which in turn turned into Hasegawa, Montiel and know Donaire. I actually don't have a problem with that scenario either
    Yeah, that seems reasonable too. That's the hardest part about the lineal thingy. When a guy moves up or retires, when does a guy do enough to start a new line.
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    Pernell Whitaker- This guy was slick as hell in the ring...I wish he was prime today a bout against Mayweather would be a boxing fans dream in terms of tecnique...was a world champion in one form or another for almost a decade....one of the greatest boxers of all time who until his later years when he stopped training as hard as he partied he was unbeatable

    Roberto Duran- Over 100 career wins, was champion in 4 weight classes, had some of the most memorable fights win or lose of the last 40 years, tough as nails and overtime we thought he was done at an elite level he came back to prove the world wrong...The announcement of his name gave fans goosebumps because they knew they were in for a war...Was one of the most intimidating fighters of all time as well

    Floyd Mayweather JR- Love him or hate him you can not deny his skill set and the fact he has claimed world titles in 5 weight classes, one of the most defensively skilled fighters ever. Can be exciting if he chooses but no matter what he gives us some sort of clinic against elite opponents one of the era biggest draws recently long time pound for pound best one of the ATG's and most successful fighters period let alone of my time

    Manny Pacquiao- Again Love him or hate him the man holds titles in 8 different weight classes, has fought and beaten some of our eras biggest legends...only legitimate loss in his career is against Morales (You cant count losses at 15,16 yrs old in bouts against grown men) Only truly tested against JMM...Made himself a legend by battering bigger men.....An international celebertiy that just adds attention to the sport...pound for pound kingpin like Floyd one of the most successful fighters ever not just of my generation
    Of course you can't count those losses. Mainly cuz he wasn't even fighting at that age. His early losses were at 19 (to a 23 year old) and 21 years old (against a fellow 21 year old). I don't why people always trying to exaggerate shit. He's obviously improved as a fighter. But the losses count
    I don't know why people try to pretend they are internet gangsters trying to convince people they are scary frightening individuals meanwhile they are grown men looking ore like Jamie Kennedy in Malibu's Most wanted but they do
    Somebody got there feelings hurt. Not my fault you have a problem with making shit up. Stop lying and stick to the fucking facts. Shit ain't that fucking hard to understand.
    Your cool to be cursing over the internet....SCARY you are........sorry I did not run to boxrec to find out Mannys exact age...In truth one loss was at 18 not 19 so stick to the FUCKING FACTS it is not that hard....

    Your problem is your parents never taught you any respect as a kid before dumping you off back in the basement of the crack house they conceived you in...You fucking reoccurring guest on To Catch a Predator
    Same old thing with you. You either straight lying or you exaggerate facts to the extreme (just cuz you were with grown men at 15 years old doesn't mean Pacquiao was fighting them). When you get called on it you get your feelings hurt. Like a fucking little girl. That's when you start embarrassing yourself with these weak insults that you either heard from the next door neighbor's son or from the 10 year old boy your currently molesting. Your pushing 70 years of age yet your 2 inches from your monitor waiting for a response. That's a hell of a existence you got going on. And you wonder why your spouse seeks the comfort of other men. Unbelievable.

    Do everybody a....actually do yourself a favor and just stick to the facts. Shit ain't that hard. Save whatever dignity you think you still got left and stop speaking nonsense.

    In order to keep the thread from getting fucked up even more, I give you the last word and won't bother responding to your dumb ass any more

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    With such a talented fighter such as Jones it is mind boggling that he was never a lineal champ! Kind of reminds me of Donaire, an extremely gifted fighter that has yet been a lineal champ.

    And most boxing fans and historians just go with the lineal title anyways. I mean when John Ruiz gets to claim he was a HW champ like Ali and Louis, then you know the alphabet titles don't mean shit.
    If I'm not mistaken I do believe Donaire is the Bantamweight lineal champion at this moment
    I think the last guy who clearly was that was probably the guy who beat Gaby Canizales who beat Sandoval who beat Jeff Chandler who beat Sol;is who beat Lujan who beat Zamora who beat I dunno. Paningo? From Columbia? Maybe Venezuela? I think (could be wrong) he retired.

    I think one could argue pretty convincingly that Rafael Marquez did enough to begin a new line, but he never lost and moved up too. So THEN who are we left with? Hawsegawa? I guess the question is do you think he did enough to start a new line. He had big wins over Sahaprom, but Sahaprom had never faced Raffy and I think was the weaker beltholder in terms of competition faced. So I don't think Nonito gets there...YET.

    But I think the winner of Nonito the Mares/Agbeko victor is going to have a pretty good claim.
    Paningo was from Venezuela. He actually moved up to featherweight. He didn't retire. And yes he was the one who had last the lineal title. But again it depends how one continues the line. Some consider the title to still be vacant. Which is fair enough. Others continued the line when Veerapol Sahaprom stopped Joichiro Tatsuyoshi. Which in turn turned into Hasegawa, Montiel and know Donaire. I actually don't have a problem with that scenario either
    Yeah, that seems reasonable too. That's the hardest part about the lineal thingy. When a guy moves up or retires, when does a guy do enough to start a new line.
    Things are pretty much at the point were lineal lines are getting debated.

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    Pernell Whitaker- This guy was slick as hell in the ring...I wish he was prime today a bout against Mayweather would be a boxing fans dream in terms of tecnique...was a world champion in one form or another for almost a decade....one of the greatest boxers of all time who until his later years when he stopped training as hard as he partied he was unbeatable

    Roberto Duran- Over 100 career wins, was champion in 4 weight classes, had some of the most memorable fights win or lose of the last 40 years, tough as nails and overtime we thought he was done at an elite level he came back to prove the world wrong...The announcement of his name gave fans goosebumps because they knew they were in for a war...Was one of the most intimidating fighters of all time as well

    Floyd Mayweather JR- Love him or hate him you can not deny his skill set and the fact he has claimed world titles in 5 weight classes, one of the most defensively skilled fighters ever. Can be exciting if he chooses but no matter what he gives us some sort of clinic against elite opponents one of the era biggest draws recently long time pound for pound best one of the ATG's and most successful fighters period let alone of my time

    Manny Pacquiao- Again Love him or hate him the man holds titles in 8 different weight classes, has fought and beaten some of our eras biggest legends...only legitimate loss in his career is against Morales (You cant count losses at 15,16 yrs old in bouts against grown men) Only truly tested against JMM...Made himself a legend by battering bigger men.....An international celebertiy that just adds attention to the sport...pound for pound kingpin like Floyd one of the most successful fighters ever not just of my generation
    Of course you can't count those losses. Mainly cuz he wasn't even fighting at that age. His early losses were at 19 (to a 23 year old) and 21 years old (against a fellow 21 year old). I don't why people always trying to exaggerate shit. He's obviously improved as a fighter. But the losses count
    I don't know why people try to pretend they are internet gangsters trying to convince people they are scary frightening individuals meanwhile they are grown men looking ore like Jamie Kennedy in Malibu's Most wanted but they do
    Somebody got there feelings hurt. Not my fault you have a problem with making shit up. Stop lying and stick to the fucking facts. Shit ain't that fucking hard to understand.
    Your cool to be cursing over the internet....SCARY you are........sorry I did not run to boxrec to find out Mannys exact age...In truth one loss was at 18 not 19 so stick to the FUCKING FACTS it is not that hard....

    Your problem is your parents never taught you any respect as a kid before dumping you off back in the basement of the crack house they conceived you in...You fucking reoccurring guest on To Catch a Predator
    Same old thing with you. You either straight lying or you exaggerate facts to the extreme (just cuz you were with grown men at 15 years old doesn't mean Pacquiao was fighting them). When you get called on it you get your feelings hurt. Like a fucking little girl. That's when you start embarrassing yourself with these weak insults that you either heard from the next door neighbor's son or from the 10 year old boy your currently molesting. Your pushing 70 years of age yet your 2 inches from your monitor waiting for a response. That's a hell of a existence you got going on. And you wonder why your spouse seeks the comfort of other men. Unbelievable.

    Do everybody a....actually do yourself a favor and just stick to the facts. Shit ain't that hard. Save whatever dignity you think you still got left and stop speaking nonsense.

    In order to keep the thread from getting fucked up even more, I give you the last word and won't bother responding to your dumb ass any more

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    With such a talented fighter such as Jones it is mind boggling that he was never a lineal champ! Kind of reminds me of Donaire, an extremely gifted fighter that has yet been a lineal champ.

    And most boxing fans and historians just go with the lineal title anyways. I mean when John Ruiz gets to claim he was a HW champ like Ali and Louis, then you know the alphabet titles don't mean shit.
    If I'm not mistaken I do believe Donaire is the Bantamweight lineal champion at this moment
    I think the last guy who clearly was that was probably the guy who beat Gaby Canizales who beat Sandoval who beat Jeff Chandler who beat Sol;is who beat Lujan who beat Zamora who beat I dunno. Paningo? From Columbia? Maybe Venezuela? I think (could be wrong) he retired.

    I think one could argue pretty convincingly that Rafael Marquez did enough to begin a new line, but he never lost and moved up too. So THEN who are we left with? Hawsegawa? I guess the question is do you think he did enough to start a new line. He had big wins over Sahaprom, but Sahaprom had never faced Raffy and I think was the weaker beltholder in terms of competition faced. So I don't think Nonito gets there...YET.

    But I think the winner of Nonito the Mares/Agbeko victor is going to have a pretty good claim.
    Paningo was from Venezuela. He actually moved up to featherweight. He didn't retire. And yes he was the one who had last the lineal title. But again it depends how one continues the line. Some consider the title to still be vacant. Which is fair enough. Others continued the line when Veerapol Sahaprom stopped Joichiro Tatsuyoshi. Which in turn turned into Hasegawa, Montiel and know Donaire. I actually don't have a problem with that scenario either
    Yeah, that seems reasonable too. That's the hardest part about the lineal thingy. When a guy moves up or retires, when does a guy do enough to start a new line.
    Things are pretty much at the point were lineal lines are getting debated.
    Your shit gets lamer and lamer by the day...70yrs old, on a monitor etc...C'Mon man you are a fucking joke....My feelings don't get hurt off something a douchebag writes over the internet...I actually find it amusing the way you get bent over some shit...Its just too easy...your sorry ass can't sleep at night because of something a person post that does not agree with you or the fact your bitch is making amateur porn and she tells you there is nothing you can do about it but dream of being a real man gives you the anger to start hurling insults at people just simply for the fact you need some place to take your aggression out....seeing your not a gangster like you claim it leaves you no other options.....I can picture your pimpled pot marked cry baby self getting redder in the face by the moment just reading this...get over yourself your not a man, your not a gangster, no one is mistaken that you might actually be one....DEAL WITH IT LIFE HANDED YOU A SHITTY DEAL....Just fold the cards up and call it a fucking day...You will be a much happier person not having to constantly find avatars to make you look hardcore and you can stop watching old school Rap videos pull your pants up to the waist then find a hobby more suitable to your liking maybe get help for those feelings you have on the abandonment issues.....I feel sorry for you...A little man in a little world with nothing but hopes on being worth something one day.....

    Tell you what you live in where Cali? Detroit? Vegas? no matter the city your trailer is parked in let me know and when I come there to cover a fight you can meet me and tell your friends I am your Daddy so they stop calling you a liar about having one ......GANGSTA!!!!
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    Pernell Whitaker- This guy was slick as hell in the ring...I wish he was prime today a bout against Mayweather would be a boxing fans dream in terms of tecnique...was a world champion in one form or another for almost a decade....one of the greatest boxers of all time who until his later years when he stopped training as hard as he partied he was unbeatable

    Roberto Duran- Over 100 career wins, was champion in 4 weight classes, had some of the most memorable fights win or lose of the last 40 years, tough as nails and overtime we thought he was done at an elite level he came back to prove the world wrong...The announcement of his name gave fans goosebumps because they knew they were in for a war...Was one of the most intimidating fighters of all time as well

    Floyd Mayweather JR- Love him or hate him you can not deny his skill set and the fact he has claimed world titles in 5 weight classes, one of the most defensively skilled fighters ever. Can be exciting if he chooses but no matter what he gives us some sort of clinic against elite opponents one of the era biggest draws recently long time pound for pound best one of the ATG's and most successful fighters period let alone of my time

    Manny Pacquiao- Again Love him or hate him the man holds titles in 8 different weight classes, has fought and beaten some of our eras biggest legends...only legitimate loss in his career is against Morales (You cant count losses at 15,16 yrs old in bouts against grown men) Only truly tested against JMM...Made himself a legend by battering bigger men.....An international celebertiy that just adds attention to the sport...pound for pound kingpin like Floyd one of the most successful fighters ever not just of my generation
    Of course you can't count those losses. Mainly cuz he wasn't even fighting at that age. His early losses were at 19 (to a 23 year old) and 21 years old (against a fellow 21 year old). I don't why people always trying to exaggerate shit. He's obviously improved as a fighter. But the losses count
    I don't know why people try to pretend they are internet gangsters trying to convince people they are scary frightening individuals meanwhile they are grown men looking ore like Jamie Kennedy in Malibu's Most wanted but they do
    Somebody got there feelings hurt. Not my fault you have a problem with making shit up. Stop lying and stick to the fucking facts. Shit ain't that fucking hard to understand.
    Your cool to be cursing over the internet....SCARY you are........sorry I did not run to boxrec to find out Mannys exact age...In truth one loss was at 18 not 19 so stick to the FUCKING FACTS it is not that hard....

    Your problem is your parents never taught you any respect as a kid before dumping you off back in the basement of the crack house they conceived you in...You fucking reoccurring guest on To Catch a Predator
    Same old thing with you. You either straight lying or you exaggerate facts to the extreme (just cuz you were with grown men at 15 years old doesn't mean Pacquiao was fighting them). When you get called on it you get your feelings hurt. Like a fucking little girl. That's when you start embarrassing yourself with these weak insults that you either heard from the next door neighbor's son or from the 10 year old boy your currently molesting. Your pushing 70 years of age yet your 2 inches from your monitor waiting for a response. That's a hell of a existence you got going on. And you wonder why your spouse seeks the comfort of other men. Unbelievable.

    Do everybody a....actually do yourself a favor and just stick to the facts. Shit ain't that hard. Save whatever dignity you think you still got left and stop speaking nonsense.

    In order to keep the thread from getting fucked up even more, I give you the last word and won't bother responding to your dumb ass any more

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    With such a talented fighter such as Jones it is mind boggling that he was never a lineal champ! Kind of reminds me of Donaire, an extremely gifted fighter that has yet been a lineal champ.

    And most boxing fans and historians just go with the lineal title anyways. I mean when John Ruiz gets to claim he was a HW champ like Ali and Louis, then you know the alphabet titles don't mean shit.
    If I'm not mistaken I do believe Donaire is the Bantamweight lineal champion at this moment
    I think the last guy who clearly was that was probably the guy who beat Gaby Canizales who beat Sandoval who beat Jeff Chandler who beat Sol;is who beat Lujan who beat Zamora who beat I dunno. Paningo? From Columbia? Maybe Venezuela? I think (could be wrong) he retired.

    I think one could argue pretty convincingly that Rafael Marquez did enough to begin a new line, but he never lost and moved up too. So THEN who are we left with? Hawsegawa? I guess the question is do you think he did enough to start a new line. He had big wins over Sahaprom, but Sahaprom had never faced Raffy and I think was the weaker beltholder in terms of competition faced. So I don't think Nonito gets there...YET.

    But I think the winner of Nonito the Mares/Agbeko victor is going to have a pretty good claim.
    Paningo was from Venezuela. He actually moved up to featherweight. He didn't retire. And yes he was the one who had last the lineal title. But again it depends how one continues the line. Some consider the title to still be vacant. Which is fair enough. Others continued the line when Veerapol Sahaprom stopped Joichiro Tatsuyoshi. Which in turn turned into Hasegawa, Montiel and know Donaire. I actually don't have a problem with that scenario either
    Yeah, that seems reasonable too. That's the hardest part about the lineal thingy. When a guy moves up or retires, when does a guy do enough to start a new line.
    Things are pretty much at the point were lineal lines are getting debated.
    Your shit gets lamer and lamer by the day...70yrs old, on a monitor etc...C'Mon man you are a fucking joke....My feelings don't get hurt off something a douchebag writes over the internet...I actually find it amusing the way you get bent over some shit...I can picture your face getting redder by the moment when I post an insult about you!!!!

    Deal with life, give up the "I AM GANGSTA" image. get your GED and fulfill your dream of being a supervisor of a fastfood resturant...Where you live Cali? I am sure ypou can get yourself a spot at In and Out burger, IF YOU REALLY TRY HARD!!!!
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