WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[fan johnny]

Has manny taken a test? No

I'm not interested in the excuses 'timing' 'needles' 'the easter bunny' 'floyd on vacation'

Has manny taken an idependent random test? no.

Done.

Can you define what you mean by independent random test and who has already undergone this test? Can you enlighten me on this?

USADA are one such body. Independent simply means a body that has no alligence or connetction to any party envolved. Nevada state commision is independant from that point of view but doesn't take blood and is completely half arsed.

Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosely have undergone and passed an independent olympic style test. You are now enlightened.

what this has to do with my previous post is beyond me. It also doesn't change the FACT that manny still has done nothing to clear his name.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

No agency has the ability to conduct the tests. They all use the same labs. The only thing not independent is the administration of the testing.

The only test, Olympic Style Testing utilizes during competition which is typically (99 time out of 100) is immediately following an event and the samples are typically urine. The random testing that OST uses is during non-competition times. Pacquiao has taken the tests a number of times, including a blood test immediately before his fight with Morales.

You add no light to the subject, only darkness.

If someone repeats a lie enough times, you might be stupid enough to believe it.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Who was that track star who accused others of steroid use and demanded that they be tested numerous times, and then people started saying he was one of the biggest users of steroids around. I don't know if anything was proven, but sometimes people blame others for strategy purposes then it ricochet's right back toward's them. If one cheater is getting away with it , then probably 25% or more in the sport are getting away with it. It's not just one person doing it. Look at all the other sports. Olympics as an example. We find out now that most of the olympic athletes, throughout the last 5 or so decades, took some form or another of illegal drugs. It wasn't just one athlete.

[marbleheadmaui]

Who was that track star who accused others of steroid use and demanded that they be tested numerous times, and then people started saying he was one of the biggest users of steroids around. I don't know if anything was proven, but sometimes people blame others for strategy purposes then it ricochet's right back toward's them. If one cheater is getting away with it , then probably 25% or more in the sport are getting away with it. It's not just one person doing it. Look at all the other sports. Olympics as an example. We find out now that most of the olympic athletes, throughout the last 5 or so decades, took some form or another of illegal drugs. It wasn't just one athlete.

Carl Lewis? See I think this is really on point. The rules in boxing should probably be changed to a more strict regimine of some kind. But that leaves two issues. First, anyone who thinks that the WADA standard catches more users than it misses is likely wrong. Second, until such a change is made? Manny is obeying the rules.

[Hornfinger]

Has manny taken a test? No

I'm not interested in the excuses 'timing' 'needles' 'the easter bunny' 'floyd on vacation'

Has manny taken an idependent random test? no.

Done.

Can you define what you mean by independent random test and who has already undergone this test? Can you enlighten me on this?

USADA are one such body. Independent simply means a body that has no alligence or connetction to any party envolved. Nevada state commision is independant from that point of view but doesn't take blood and is completely half arsed.

Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosely have undergone and passed an independent olympic style test. You are now enlightened.

what this has to do with my previous post is beyond me. It also doesn't change the FACT that manny still has done nothing to clear his name.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

No agency has the ability to conduct the tests. They all use the same labs. The only thing not independent is the administration of the testing.

The only test, Olympic Style Testing utilizes during competition which is typically (99 time out of 100) is immediately following an event and the samples are typically urine. The random testing that OST uses is during non-competition times. Pacquiao has taken the tests a number of times, including a blood test immediately before his fight with Morales.

You add no light to the subject, only darkness.

If someone repeats a lie enough times, you might be stupid enough to believe it.

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

USADA are one such body. Independent simply means a body that has no alligence or connetction to any party envolved. Nevada state commision is independant from that point of view but doesn't take blood and is completely half arsed.

Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosely have undergone and passed an independent olympic style test. You are now enlightened.

what this has to do with my previous post is beyond me. It also doesn't change the FACT that manny still has done nothing to clear his name.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

No agency has the ability to conduct the tests. They all use the same labs. The only thing not independent is the administration of the testing.

The only test, Olympic Style Testing utilizes during competition which is typically (99 time out of 100) is immediately following an event and the samples are typically urine. The random testing that OST uses is during non-competition times. Pacquiao has taken the tests a number of times, including a blood test immediately before his fight with Morales.

You add no light to the subject, only darkness.

If someone repeats a lie enough times, you might be stupid enough to believe it.

This statement already destroys Hornfinger's credibility. There is no more point in continuing the argument.

[Hornfinger]

USADA are one such body. Independent simply means a body that has no alligence or connetction to any party envolved. Nevada state commision is independant from that point of view but doesn't take blood and is completely half arsed.

Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosely have undergone and passed an independent olympic style test. You are now enlightened.

what this has to do with my previous post is beyond me. It also doesn't change the FACT that manny still has done nothing to clear his name.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

No agency has the ability to conduct the tests. They all use the same labs. The only thing not independent is the administration of the testing.

The only test, Olympic Style Testing utilizes during competition which is typically (99 time out of 100) is immediately following an event and the samples are typically urine. The random testing that OST uses is during non-competition times. Pacquiao has taken the tests a number of times, including a blood test immediately before his fight with Morales.

You add no light to the subject, only darkness.

If someone repeats a lie enough times, you might be stupid enough to believe it.

This statement already destroys Hornfinger's credibility. There is no more point in continuing the argument.

Nope, it's childish name calling because no one can address the point, which is....

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

[QUOTE=Hornfinger;969688]

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

This is in no way meant to demean you but based on the above statement that you made, what if someone wrote you this:

"You only believe you are not stupid because you say you are not. I want proof."

[Hornfinger]

[QUOTE=InTheNeutralCorner;969691]

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

This is in no way meant to demean you but based on the above statement that you made, what if someone wrote you this:

"You only believe you are not stupid because you say you are not. I want proof."

You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

[brocktonblockbust]

there is no legal requirement for anyone to submit anything more than the standard requirements. i think hornfinger wants to rewrite the rules.

[brocktonblockbust]

He chose not to.

and rightfully so! he is not bound by any law to do so.

[fan johnny]

[QUOTE=Hornfinger;969694]

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

This is in no way meant to demean you but based on the above statement that you made, what if someone wrote you this:

"You only believe you are not stupid because you say you are not. I want proof."

You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

Having intelligence, is not necessarily synonymous with being stupid. The guys who make the JackAss series are stupid, because they do stupid things. They are not stupid because they don't have intelligence.

[Hornfinger]

[QUOTE=fan johnny;969699]

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

This is in no way meant to demean you but based on the above statement that you made, what if someone wrote you this:

"You only believe you are not stupid because you say you are not. I want proof."

You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

Having intelligence, is not necessarily synonymous with being stupid. The guys who make the JackAss series are stupid, because they do stupid things. They are not stupid because they don't have intelligence.

And so it continues..... hurling the insults and running away from the issue that no pac fan can or wants to address....

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

But those certificate, diplomas or IQ scores are the standard and are not good enough. You have to subject yourself to a more intensive brain probe to find out how much neurons you still have functioning.
What do you say?

[C-Lo]

What people don't understand about Hornfinger and MafiaJoey's are the fact that they are both the biggest Pacquiao haters on the face of the earth. I made a rant about the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao hating and not one person could provide PROOF that Pacquiao was on PEDs. I'll use this analogy again:

Picture yourself back in school. You took an exam, passed it. Someone in your class claimed he saw you cheating and he's demanding the teacher or the administrators make you take an even more in depth test to prove you weren't actually cheating. Do you sit there and say, "I passed the test already, why do I have to retake it?" or "Sure, I'll take the test again cause someone said I cheated?"

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.