PBF guranteed 50 million to face PACMAN

[Cressa121]

I don't for one second believe Mayweather is actually scared of Pacquiao. I do believe Mayweather knows that Pacquiao will be his toughest test and there is a chance he could lose, therefore he's waiting for the right time to take the fight. He's carefully built his image around being an undefeated fighter, his marketability would be shot if he lost, especially if it were convincing.

So he's waiting to see enough from Pacquiao to convince him he can win. Sugar Ray Leonard did it with Marvin Hagler. He waited for Hagler's desire to box began to wane and he'd showed signs of slipping before taking the fight. It didn't matter to Leonard that he hadn't been active. He just wanted signs that Hagler was slipping. When he saw what he needed to see, he took the fight. But I think if Mayweather fights on, this fight will happen. Money talks after all.

I also don't believe the talk of him demanding $100 million for the fight. I've seen him talk about it since those claims were made and he's always said the only thing stopping this fight from happening is the drug testing issues. If he wanted a guaranteed $100 million then I'm sure he'd have mentioned not being happy with his potential cut. I think this $100 million talk came about because of the mooted 3 fight promotional deal between Mayweather and Don King that would have seen Mayweather get $100 million, which came up sometime last year. I think that got blown out of proportion and went from "Don King wants to sign Mayweather to a 3 fight, $100 million deal" to "Mayweather wants $100 million to fight Pacquiao!"

I just can't get excited about the prospect of this fight any more tbh. Don't get me wrong, I'd get excited if they signed, but I'm just bored of hearing the same old talk and arguments about drug testing, the constant need of people to try and denigrate each fighter through baseless accusations of drug use, or trashing each fighter's records. Until it's signed I'll be pretty blase about it.

I'd rather focus on guys who want to fight. That's why I'm glad Pacquiao has remained active against mostly good opposition of late. There's plenty of intriguing fights without this one, it just sucks that the biggest fight that can be made doesn't look like happening any time soon.

[Boxer4life]

do you guys really believe that a guy that has been on top of the sport for so long is scared of another fighter? don't buy the hype, neither one of these guys is scared loosing, if they were the type to lack the confidence to win, they wouldn't get to where they are, now floyd did say the only way he fights ANYone is the they take the test, so that remains to be seen

[fan johnny]

do you guys really believe that a guy that has been on top of the sport for so long is scared of another fighter? don't buy the hype, neither one of these guys is scared loosing, if they were the type to lack the confidence to win, they wouldn't get to where they are, now floyd did say the only way he fights ANYone is the they take the test, so that remains to be seen

It is "Fear" which keeps him from getting into the ring with Pacquiao, he just doesn't fear Pacquiao. Otherwise we whould have already put up the first installment.

[mnmc10]

the risks of fighting pac is huge. pbf losing to pac means so much more compared to pac losing to pbf.

[captainanddew]

When the fight does happen, both guys will be slightly passed their prime. Really is a shame that this fight didn't happen a year or 18 months ago.

[THE THIRD MAN]

While Pacman beats up on old men, (Mosley) and over rated plaster casters (Margarito) we should be awaiting fight number 2 between Floyd and Pacman! As it happens we are no nearer having a first fight yet. If Pacman is on something then surely the World Anti Doping Agency would have a say? Am i missing something here? Nothing seems to happen after every Pacquaio fight so what is the beef?

[mafiajoey]

While Pacman beats up on old men, (Mosley) and over rated plaster casters (Margarito) we should be awaiting fight number 2 between Floyd and Pacman! As it happens we are no nearer having a first fight yet. If Pacman is on something then surely the World Anti Doping Agency would have a say? Am i missing something here? Nothing seems to happen after every Pacquaio fight so what is the beef?

What your missing is the tests they have in place now are bullshit and many people got away with cheating via steroids, peds, HGH and whatever else it might be.


Good reading below

The world's foremost expert on performance enhancing drugs,UCLA professor and researcher Dr. Donald Catlin, has supported Mayweather's position. Dr. Catlin is, essentially, the man who busted BALCO.

You can stop using HGH for one day, just one day, and you can be clean in any test. They can use EPO one day and then it can be gone by noontime the next day. All the drugs are different, all have different windows (for detection). All we can do is to keep upping the ante, making the tests more random and stronger.

Manny is afraid to test. The very same testing that over 11,000 athletes (including Kobe Bryant, Lance Armstrong, LeBron James, Usain Bolt and the entire Filipino team) have undergone. Track star Tyson Gay was tested 28 times last year. Pacquiao fears this type of testing.

The allegations of Pacquiao's use of performance enhancing drugs are not baseless:

Where there's smoke...: Manny trains under the tutelage of Freddy Roach. Freddy was the trainer of James Toney during the period when Toney tested positive for steroids - twice. Roach also trained and maintains close personal relationships with Mickey Rourke and Sylvester Stallone, two known steroid users. Additionally, Roach owns and runs the Wild Card Gym in Hollywood. Out of this gym, he has supervised a plethora of fighters with dirty body chemistry, namely Lucia Rijker and a coterie of MMA fighters.

Sudden performance gains: While Pacquiao has long been an elite level fighter, he recently connected with conditioning guru Alex Ariza and suddenly and dramatically improved his performance to all-time great levels. It strikes many boxing insiders as odd that the same fighter who was rattled by Juan Manuel Marquez and beaten by Erik Morales at 130 pounds is now dominating full-sized 147 pounders like Miguel Cotto. This type of late-career surge is reminiscent of Barry Bonds. Is it reasonable to believe that Manny and Ariza suddenly found a "special blend of supplements" (Ariza's words) that make Manny indestructible? Personally speaking, if I found this Holy Grail of vitamins, I would bottle and sell it ...while I spend the rest of my days lounging in seaside villas.

It's all in the reaction: Manny was given the opportunity to refute the mounting evidence against him. Instead, he has taken a predictable tactic of other steroid users: sue. As Shane Mosley, Roger Clemens and Marion Jones before him, Pacquiao has opted to file a defamation lawsuit. This is the worst possible company to be in. Rather than taking the tests, Manny prefers to be litigious than to be pugilistic.

The excuses don't hold water: In refusing the blood tests, the embattled Filipino boxer has brought forward a series of excuses that have all been shot down. Initially, he said that he was "afraid of needles". This was preposterous, as Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, quickly noted that Pacquiao has many tattoos. Then, it was said that blood testing "weakens" a fighter. Well, both fighters will undergo the same testing. Wouldn't Floyd also be affected? Additionally, the amount of blood taken is about a teaspoon. The body replenishes that quantity of blood within an hour. With 11,000 athletes undergoing doping tests at the Beijing Olympics, we continued to see improved athletic performances. Besides, have you heard a single one of those elite athletes - including anyone from the Philippines - complain previously about being weakened?

Mayweather, Roy Jones, Oscar Delahoya and Andre Ward are examples of boxers who fought in the Olympics and were subject to the strictest testing possible. But Pacquiao has refused.

The Filipino culture: The Philippines is one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in the Pacific Rim. The international community has vilified the Philippines for their morally abhorrent practices in the dogmeat trade. Commercially, this island nation lags far behind Japan and Korea. Best known as a tourist destination for prostitution, and mail-order brides, the Philippines is fast becoming known for the drug trade as well. You need only to pop over to the Steroid Pinoy or Sulit websites to see that the Philippines embraces the use of steroids, where they are dispensed over the counter and cheap. Much of it is imported from neighboring China where laboratories are rampant.

Filipino WWE wrestler Batista is a steroid user and is closely aligned with Manny Pacquiao.

The most obvious answer is most often the right answer: people who are trying to hide something usually have something to hide. Manny Pacquiao is aggressively avoiding rigorous drug testing. In an era where we have seen our best athletes ensnared within the net of steroid use.

What are you hiding, Manny? Take the tests. Make the fight. Prove that you are clean.

TCG




Love how the Pactards use Floyd as the scapegoat. No middle ground, no seeing the other view. Yha Pac is God of course he wouldn't do anything wrong.



THREAD SHOULD SAY......MANNY REFUSES 50 MILLION DOLLAR DRUG TEST

99% OF THE PEOPLE HERE NOT ONLY WORSHIP MANNY BUT THEY HATE FLOYD. SO NO POINT IN DISCUSSING THIS ANYMORE. THIS IS SADDO'S PACLAND

[cyndee]

i think PBF is still looking for holes on Pacquiao's style that he can use or maybe he's waiting for him to get old.