Just another way of looking at it.

[erics44]

he is impressive, whats the point of the thread tho?

another way of looking at what?

[miron_lang]

he is impressive, whats the point of the thread tho?

another way of looking at what?

Miguel Cotto - Not the fighter he used to be. Damaged after the KO loss to Margarito

Joshua Clottey - Coming off a loss. Tailor made for Pacquiao

Antonio Margarito - Wasnt the same after the brutal loss to Mosley

Shane Mosley - Shot after the loss to Floyd and Draw with Mora.


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It became a standard that these are in fact true. even here it became as a fact that Pac has cherry picked opponents even if they themselves pick the opponent to win citing that they are not fortune tellers or something. You dont think the last 4 names were cherry picked fighters?

[erics44]

no mate

they were and probably still are the best in the division

who else was around for him to fight?

[Gandalf]

There is no denying that each of those fighters looked less than spectacular prior to fighting Manny Pac. They have all been top fighters at some stage in their careers, but when Manny faced them they were either of coming in off of recent KO's or a poor performance or string of performances.

You can look at it another way and say that some fighters come back well after a heavy stoppage or get better in their 40's, but those are exceptions to the rule rather than the norm.

[miron_lang]

There is no denying that each of those fighters looked less than spectacular prior to fighting Manny Pac. They have all been top fighters at some stage in their careers, but when Manny faced them they were either of coming in off of recent KO's or a poor performance or string of performances.

You can look at it another way and say that some fighters come back well after a heavy stoppage or get better in their 40's, but those are exceptions to the rule rather than the norm.

But they are the TOP guys. surely #2 will fight #3 but does the loser of that bout become less attractive than an unranked fighter?

Just an example : Mitchell wasnt even ranked when Floyd fought him and Baldomir was #10 before the Judah upset.


Evander looks shot to pieces prior to facing Tyson and what happened?

The point is you cant automatically assumed that a fighter is lesser now because he had lost. Cotto has lost one prior to facing Pac and at age 28 he was not the same?

and despite winning another title in a higher weight Cotto still looked less spectacular before the loss to Margarito?

Miles should stop discrediting Pacquiao.

[erics44]

who should have have fought in his last 4 fights?

[miron_lang]

who should have have fought in his last 4 fights?

He fought the TOP 4 Fighters when he first entered the division.


maybe he should have fought #6 to # 9 ??

1. Carlos Quintana
2. Zab Judah
3. Luis Collazo
4. Andre Berto

To me that is less impressive

[mafiajoey]

There is no denying that each of those fighters looked less than spectacular prior to fighting Manny Pac. They have all been top fighters at some stage in their careers, but when Manny faced them they were either of coming in off of recent KO's or a poor performance or string of performances.

You can look at it another way and say that some fighters come back well after a heavy stoppage or get better in their 40's, but those are exceptions to the rule rather than the norm.

But they are the TOP guys. surely #2 will fight #3 but does the loser of that bout become less attractive than an unranked fighter?

Just an example : Mitchell wasnt even ranked when Floyd fought him and Baldomir was #10 before the Judah upset.


Evander looks shot to pieces prior to facing Tyson and what happened?

The point is you cant automatically assumed that a fighter is lesser now because he had lost. Cotto has lost one prior to facing Pac and at age 28 he was not the same?

and despite winning another title in a higher weight Cotto still looked less spectacular before the loss to Margarito?

Miles should stop discrediting Pacquiao.

All fighters are different. Not all will be lesser after a loss but some just lose "it." Was Cotto the same after Margo fight? NO.... And what title in a higher weight did Cotto win before the Margo fight? What weight is this you speak of? He was fighting 147 for 2yrs when he fought Margo