Just another way of looking at it.

[miron_lang]

There is no denying that each of those fighters looked less than spectacular prior to fighting Manny Pac. They have all been top fighters at some stage in their careers, but when Manny faced them they were either of coming in off of recent KO's or a poor performance or string of performances.

You can look at it another way and say that some fighters come back well after a heavy stoppage or get better in their 40's, but those are exceptions to the rule rather than the norm.

But they are the TOP guys. surely #2 will fight #3 but does the loser of that bout become less attractive than an unranked fighter?

Just an example : Mitchell wasnt even ranked when Floyd fought him and Baldomir was #10 before the Judah upset.


Evander looks shot to pieces prior to facing Tyson and what happened?

The point is you cant automatically assumed that a fighter is lesser now because he had lost. Cotto has lost one prior to facing Pac and at age 28 he was not the same?

and despite winning another title in a higher weight Cotto still looked less spectacular before the loss to Margarito?

Miles should stop discrediting Pacquiao.

[erics44]

who should have have fought in his last 4 fights?

[miron_lang]

who should have have fought in his last 4 fights?

He fought the TOP 4 Fighters when he first entered the division.


maybe he should have fought #6 to # 9 ??

1. Carlos Quintana
2. Zab Judah
3. Luis Collazo
4. Andre Berto

To me that is less impressive

[BIG H]

I'm lost

[erics44]

me too

im not even sure if this is a pro pac or an anti pac thread anymore

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[BIG H]

me too

im not even sure if this is a pro pac or an anti pac thread anymore

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Exactly why I am lost

[KananKrus]

Just helping out here... LOL!

What is the point?

The point is.... miron lang is providing proof that the assumptions that Pacquiao is cherry picking opponents by "established" Pac haters like Miles and company, here at Saddo, is not accurate, or yet, completely false.

The proof presented is that of a list widely accepted that reflects the high rankings of Pac's last few opponents at a weight within the same grouping to that of Pacquiao.

Add to that the timeline of 2008... then bingo! Without BIAS in one's system, independently, one can conclude or at least the fact will be acceptable, that the string of Pacquiao's opponents since 2008, considering availability and or physical probability, are not only worthy, but topnotch!

[mafiajoey]

There is no denying that each of those fighters looked less than spectacular prior to fighting Manny Pac. They have all been top fighters at some stage in their careers, but when Manny faced them they were either of coming in off of recent KO's or a poor performance or string of performances.

You can look at it another way and say that some fighters come back well after a heavy stoppage or get better in their 40's, but those are exceptions to the rule rather than the norm.

But they are the TOP guys. surely #2 will fight #3 but does the loser of that bout become less attractive than an unranked fighter?

Just an example : Mitchell wasnt even ranked when Floyd fought him and Baldomir was #10 before the Judah upset.


Evander looks shot to pieces prior to facing Tyson and what happened?

The point is you cant automatically assumed that a fighter is lesser now because he had lost. Cotto has lost one prior to facing Pac and at age 28 he was not the same?

and despite winning another title in a higher weight Cotto still looked less spectacular before the loss to Margarito?

Miles should stop discrediting Pacquiao.

All fighters are different. Not all will be lesser after a loss but some just lose "it." Was Cotto the same after Margo fight? NO.... And what title in a higher weight did Cotto win before the Margo fight? What weight is this you speak of? He was fighting 147 for 2yrs when he fought Margo