Just another way of looking at it.

[marbleheadmaui]

Very nice post.

The one thing the folks who hammer Manny never answer very well is "Well who should he have fought?"

[Boxer4life]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

[marbleheadmaui]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

[Boxer4life]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

Good point with b hop, and i agree on chico, but i still think floyds wins over him and castillo carry some weight because he did fight them when they were a bug deal, unfortunately they failed to deliver after that fights, like most guys floyd fights

[marbleheadmaui]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

Good point with b hop, and i agree on chico, but i still think floyds wins over him and castillo carry some weight because he did fight them when they were a bug deal, unfortunately they failed to deliver after that fights, like most guys floyd fights

I agree the Chico win carries some weight. It just doesn't carry the weight I thought it did at the time.

[Boxer4life]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

Good point with b hop, and i agree on chico, but i still think floyds wins over him and castillo carry some weight because he did fight them when they were a bug deal, unfortunately they failed to deliver after that fights, like most guys floyd fights

I agree the Chico win carries some weight. It just doesn't carry the weight I thought it did at the time.

agreed, which goes back to what u said, you cant judge a fighters career until he and everyone he fought is ll wrapped up.

[mafiajoey]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

Roy didn't hand B-Hop a life altering beat down my friend.



And in 29 days you have 618 or so posts. I'm curious....that's over 21 posts each day. For 29 days in a row. Are you part owner of this site? Or maybe you don't work? Or you are one of those trick Pac accounts to build more Pac lovers on the forum. But you disguise i with other general boxing posts....hmm....you've seem to be quite the Pac lover as of late. Seemed neautral in the beginning.

[marbleheadmaui]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

Roy didn't hand B-Hop a life altering beat down my friend.



And in 29 days you have 618 or so posts. I'm curious....that's over 21 posts each day. For 29 days in a row. Are you part owner of this site? Or maybe you don't work? Or you are one of those trick Pac accounts to build more Pac lovers on the forum. But you disguise i with other general boxing posts....hmm....you've seem to be quite the Pac lover as of late. Seemed neautral in the beginning.

I'm retired and have been for a decade. I have no spcial love for Manny. For any fighter these days. I think my days as a fan of fighters ended with Finito Lopez.

But I despise people who act irresponsibly and make allegations without any foundation whatsoever. And I mean despise.

[mafiajoey]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

This post identifies perfectly why it really is impossible to form an accurate picture of a fighter's career until not only he has retired, but the men he fought have also retired.

I mean who'd have thought the Jones win over BHOP would be so critical to his resume when it happened in 1993 (?) ? Who knew BHOP would go on to be BHOP? Same with Sanchez's win over Azumah. That win has grown dramatically in importance. Lennox over Vitali looks like another doesn't it?

It works the other way too. At the time Floyd's win over Chico looked huge. Now? Not so much. Chico turned out to be a good fighter, not a great one.

Roy didn't hand B-Hop a life altering beat down my friend.



And in 29 days you have 618 or so posts. I'm curious....that's over 21 posts each day. For 29 days in a row. Are you part owner of this site? Or maybe you don't work? Or you are one of those trick Pac accounts to build more Pac lovers on the forum. But you disguise i with other general boxing posts....hmm....you've seem to be quite the Pac lover as of late. Seemed neautral in the beginning.

I'm retired and have been for a decade. I have no spcial love for Manny. For any fighter these days. I think my days as a fan of fighters ended with Finito Lopez.

But I despise people who act irresponsibly and make allegations without any foundation whatsoever. And I mean despise.

I respect that.....you def know things about boxing I've only heard old timers speak of suck as my dad. Thanks

[Pavlik]

TO be honest, that just remains to be seen, if anyone of the guys pacqiou has fought can comeback and do something great, then yes it adds to his credibility, but to allthose who don't understand, our friend here is saying that the guys packman beat aren't necessarily washed up

Bro:

Miguel Cotto right now:
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Heck Even a shot Erik Morales:
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if my memory serves me right Barrera and Larios after getting beat by PAC still won a major title.