Just another way of looking at it.

[Pavlik]

Miron is making a decent point that was also brought about on FNF this past week by Joe Tessitore. Teddy Atlas was critiquing Pacquiao's opponents, but when Joe Tessitore asked Teddy Atlas who Pacquiao had ducked or who he should have been fighting and wasn't, Teddy didn't have an answer, and admitted that the Pacquiao's perceived lack of great competition wasn't Pacquiao's fault.

Yup I saw that too at FNF, and presented Bradley as the best choice. Fighting Bradley would be the less risk fight because he is not that big of a man to begin with and does not carry a big punch or a great defense. If PAC does fight him in the future and probably stop him I still believe Atlas would still have something bad to say about Manny, maybe something about the steroid issue. Can't please them all.

[Rantcatrat]

Miron is making a decent point that was also brought about on FNF this past week by Joe Tessitore. Teddy Atlas was critiquing Pacquiao's opponents, but when Joe Tessitore asked Teddy Atlas who Pacquiao had ducked or who he should have been fighting and wasn't, Teddy didn't have an answer, and admitted that the Pacquiao's perceived lack of great competition wasn't Pacquiao's fault.

Yup I saw that too at FNF, and presented Bradley as the best choice. Fighting Bradley would be the less risk fight because he is not that big of a man to begin with and does not carry a big punch or a great defense. If PAC does fight him in the future and probably stop him I still believe Atlas would still have something bad to say about Manny, maybe something about the steroid issue. Can't please them all.

I disagree. I believe Bradley is the best choice for Manny right now, barring maybe JMM. Unlike JMM, Bradley is proven at 140 and 147. In addition, you can be sure Bradley will go out on his shield. Bradley is also the top dog at 140. JMM isn't even the top dog at 135. JMM also isn't proven above 135 and the fact that he chooses to fight Diaz at 135 rather than step up and fight someone ranked at 140 makes me wonder whether JMM himself even believes he can be effective above 135, and maybe, like Mosley, he is taking the Pacquiao fight because he wants the cash, not because he can win.

[Pavlik]

Miron is making a decent point that was also brought about on FNF this past week by Joe Tessitore. Teddy Atlas was critiquing Pacquiao's opponents, but when Joe Tessitore asked Teddy Atlas who Pacquiao had ducked or who he should have been fighting and wasn't, Teddy didn't have an answer, and admitted that the Pacquiao's perceived lack of great competition wasn't Pacquiao's fault.

Yup I saw that too at FNF, and presented Bradley as the best choice. Fighting Bradley would be the less risk fight because he is not that big of a man to begin with and does not carry a big punch or a great defense. If PAC does fight him in the future and probably stop him I still believe Atlas would still have something bad to say about Manny, maybe something about the steroid issue. Can't please them all.

I disagree. I believe Bradley is the best choice for Manny right now, barring maybe JMM. Unlike JMM, Bradley is proven at 140 and 147. In addition, you can be sure Bradley will go out on his shield. Bradley is also the top dog at 140. JMM isn't even the top dog at 135. JMM also isn't proven above 135 and the fact that he chooses to fight Diaz at 135 rather than step up and fight someone ranked at 140 makes me wonder whether JMM himself even believes he can be effective above 135, and maybe, like Mosley, he is taking the Pacquiao fight because he wants the cash, not because he can win.

im not degrading bradley in any way but to say he is better than Cotto

[marbleheadmaui]

Miron is making a decent point that was also brought about on FNF this past week by Joe Tessitore. Teddy Atlas was critiquing Pacquiao's opponents, but when Joe Tessitore asked Teddy Atlas who Pacquiao had ducked or who he should have been fighting and wasn't, Teddy didn't have an answer, and admitted that the Pacquiao's perceived lack of great competition wasn't Pacquiao's fault.

Yup I saw that too at FNF, and presented Bradley as the best choice. Fighting Bradley would be the less risk fight because he is not that big of a man to begin with and does not carry a big punch or a great defense. If PAC does fight him in the future and probably stop him I still believe Atlas would still have something bad to say about Manny, maybe something about the steroid issue. Can't please them all.

I disagree. I believe Bradley is the best choice for Manny right now, barring maybe JMM. Unlike JMM, Bradley is proven at 140 and 147. In addition, you can be sure Bradley will go out on his shield. Bradley is also the top dog at 140. JMM isn't even the top dog at 135. JMM also isn't proven above 135 and the fact that he chooses to fight Diaz at 135 rather than step up and fight someone ranked at 140 makes me wonder whether JMM himself even believes he can be effective above 135, and maybe, like Mosley, he is taking the Pacquiao fight because he wants the cash, not because he can win.

While I really disagree Bradley is in any way "proven" at 147, I guess he's a legit choice among a series of pretty lousy options for Manny at this point.

Manny's best legacy option is to find a way to get to 135 and fight JMM there. Seems unlikely. Next I guess would be a suicide mission to fight Sergio Martinez and separate himself, if he were to win, from every other man who ever fought. Lineal at 112, 126, 130, 140 and 160? Crazy. Third choice I guess Bradley at 140, then Bradley at 147.

How about Kermit Cintron?

[captainanddew]

Cintron makes sense. Why? Cintron says he can make 147 if the money is right (which it undoubtedly would be). If not, just make it . a 150 pound catchweight. More importantly, Cintron is promoted by Top Rank!! The Bobfather would get to keep it in house.

Dropping to 140 makes sense. Pac is weighing less in the ring than alot of the guys who make 140. Take on Bradley and anyone else there willing to fight him.

[Gandalf]

The opponents Pac fought have all been very good in their time, but by fighting them when he did, he invited himself in for criticism. I actually agree with Teddy Atlas. There is a complete lack of young, hungry undefeated fighters on Pac's resume. Even at the lower weights, you have wins over the likes of Barrera and Morales who had been in plenty of wars themselves. Those are still Pacs most important wins IMO.

People might scoff at the suggestion of Bradley, but it is point well made that unlike Marquez who is unproven beyond 135, Bradley is the top dog at 140, is undefeated and will come to outhustle Manny. It would be nice to see someone with output, desire and some handspeed of his own to see Manny have to deal with.

I maintain that Manny is smoke and mirrors. Why not rematch Marquez earlier at 135? Because they knew he was too dangerous and went looking for lumbering come forward types. It's only 3 years later that the fight is made and Marquez is fighting 10 pounds north of any weight he has looked good at. If Manny blows him out, then whoopy doo. More smoke and mirrors. Then what? A rematch with Cotto who has been lumbering about pretending he is a 154 pounder? Or will it be Berto.

[miron_lang]

The opponents Pac fought have all been very good in their time, but by fighting them when he did,

Miles look at the timeline.

When Pac arrived at Welter those were the ranking and these were the TOP 4 guys. The money fight againts Hatton is a must you even have Hatton winning that one. after that

he proceeded in this manner Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. he did not fight a Jr Welter at Welterweight. he take on the list when he arrived. The heck if they lost along the way it happens cause they fight.

[Pavlik]

The opponents Pac fought have all been very good in their time, but by fighting them when he did,

Miles look at the timeline.

When Pac arrived at Welter those were the ranking and these were the TOP 4 guys. The money fight againts Hatton is a must you even have Hatton winning that one. after that

he proceeded in this manner Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. he did not fight a Jr Welter at Welterweight. he take on the list when he arrived. The heck if they lost along the way it happens cause they fight.

hopefully bradley is still undefeated when pac faces him, we'll see what they'll say then.