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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    I'm glad Williams is back. I hope he gets a good KO victory here. He seems like one of the good guys of the sport and after such a stunning KO defeat he needs the tune up to shake rust and to get some confidence back. I wouldn't write him off beating Martinez in a rubber match as long as he looks at his mistakes carefully. As for Cotto and Alvarez, providing the loss to Martinez hasn't left too much damage I think he beats both.

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    I recall Williams fighting his height and range vs Margarito....other then that we have been waiting forever it seems. His defense is his offense and he falls all over his own height, bends in and loops shots. I dont think he ever beats Martinez and should avoid him at all costs.

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    I really dont get how people can say Martinez has bigger fish to fry. Williams didnt have to give him the rematch and most wouldnt have done it, so now Martinez wins and its on to bigger fish....hypocrites. What bigger fish exactly? He's not getting a Pac fight, I doubt Martinez goes to light middle for anyone besides Pac. Canelo doesnt seem ready. Mayweather is highly unlikely. Only bigger fish I see is possibly Felix Sturm, if the fish are actually just dollar signs. He's gonna have to go to Germany most likely. I could see him moving up to 168 for money fights as well, but at middle Williams is one of the bigger fish. What if vasquez did the same thing? Oh I beat Marquez by ko, I got nothing to prove anymore. We wouldnt have gotten the best fight out of the series between them.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I really dont get how people can say Martinez has bigger fish to fry. Williams didnt have to give him the rematch and most wouldnt have done it, so now Martinez wins and its on to bigger fish....hypocrites. What bigger fish exactly? He's not getting a Pac fight, I doubt Martinez goes to light middle for anyone besides Pac. Canelo doesnt seem ready. Mayweather is highly unlikely. Only bigger fish I see is possibly Felix Sturm, if the fish are actually just dollar signs. He's gonna have to go to Germany most likely. I could see him moving up to 168 for money fights as well, but at middle Williams is one of the bigger fish. What if vasquez did the same thing? Oh I beat Marquez by ko, I got nothing to prove anymore. We wouldnt have gotten the best fight out of the series between them.
    Bit different mate, Marquez didnt get KTFO with one punch, Martinez ko's Williams again if it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I really dont get how people can say Martinez has bigger fish to fry. Williams didnt have to give him the rematch and most wouldnt have done it, so now Martinez wins and its on to bigger fish....hypocrites. What bigger fish exactly? He's not getting a Pac fight, I doubt Martinez goes to light middle for anyone besides Pac. Canelo doesnt seem ready. Mayweather is highly unlikely. Only bigger fish I see is possibly Felix Sturm, if the fish are actually just dollar signs. He's gonna have to go to Germany most likely. I could see him moving up to 168 for money fights as well, but at middle Williams is one of the bigger fish. What if vasquez did the same thing? Oh I beat Marquez by ko, I got nothing to prove anymore. We wouldnt have gotten the best fight out of the series between them.
    Bit different mate, Marquez didnt get KTFO with one punch, Martinez ko's Williams again if it happens.
    Bingo!

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    This is a horrible main event. First, HBO turns down Zbik as an opponent for Martinez and then they turn down Ishida as an opponent for Martinez. Now, Zbik is fighting Chavez Jr. and Williams is fighting Ishidal...on HBO!

    Williams should have a tune-up, but tune-ups for a guy who most recently was KO'd don't belong on HBO. They belong on ESPN or off cable. Talk about favoritism. If anything the boxer taking all the tough challenges, should get the tune-up on the premium cable network, not the guy loser.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 05-17-2011 at 07:30 PM.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This is a horrible main event. First, HBO turns down Zbik as an opponent for Martinez and then they turn down Ishida as an opponent for Martinez. Now, Zbik is fighting Chavez Jr. and Williams is fighting Ishidal...on HBO!

    Williams should have a tune-up, but tune-ups for a guy who most recently was KO'd don't belong on HBO. They belong on ESPN or off cable. Talk about favoritism. If anything the boxer taking all the tough challenges, should get the tune-up on the premium cable network, not the guy loser.
    I don't think it's a "horrible" main event, after all it's not PPV, however i am suprised that Chavez jr's fight is on BAD and not on some Top Rank Latin Fury #76 PPV. How that guy gets all these PPV's is beyond me, who pays to watch him fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I really dont get how people can say Martinez has bigger fish to fry. Williams didnt have to give him the rematch and most wouldnt have done it, so now Martinez wins and its on to bigger fish....hypocrites. What bigger fish exactly? He's not getting a Pac fight, I doubt Martinez goes to light middle for anyone besides Pac. Canelo doesnt seem ready. Mayweather is highly unlikely. Only bigger fish I see is possibly Felix Sturm, if the fish are actually just dollar signs. He's gonna have to go to Germany most likely. I could see him moving up to 168 for money fights as well, but at middle Williams is one of the bigger fish. What if vasquez did the same thing? Oh I beat Marquez by ko, I got nothing to prove anymore. We wouldnt have gotten the best fight out of the series between them.

    A hypocrite? I don't think so, but thanks for the insult.

    Just saying, Williams needs to get himself back in the mix and prove he's still a player before he can start thinking about a rematch with Martinez. And why would Martinez want a rematch with a guy he's already destroyed? And I also doubt that, right now, because of the brutal KO, there's much interest in a trilogy.

    Like I said, Paul needs to get himself back in contention first, and Martinez has "bigger fish to fry", if saying this makes me a hypocrite in your eyes, I think I can live with it.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 05-17-2011 at 06:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I really dont get how people can say Martinez has bigger fish to fry. Williams didnt have to give him the rematch and most wouldnt have done it, so now Martinez wins and its on to bigger fish....hypocrites. What bigger fish exactly? He's not getting a Pac fight, I doubt Martinez goes to light middle for anyone besides Pac. Canelo doesnt seem ready. Mayweather is highly unlikely. Only bigger fish I see is possibly Felix Sturm, if the fish are actually just dollar signs. He's gonna have to go to Germany most likely. I could see him moving up to 168 for money fights as well, but at middle Williams is one of the bigger fish. What if vasquez did the same thing? Oh I beat Marquez by ko, I got nothing to prove anymore. We wouldnt have gotten the best fight out of the series between them.
    Skel was on point with his response. Just to add, Williams is planning on staying at junior middleweight for the foreseeable future. His team doesn't want a fight with Martinez now and not until he makes a move to 60', which from what I understand, is unlikely for the time being. It make sense too because there are more money fights at 54'.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    Good fight for Paul. Hope he wins then go out and fight Vanes (something). That way, if he wins, he can be rank #1 across the board for a title shot.

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    I'm not going to state I'm not excited about seeing Paul Williams back in action because I am. I didn't mean to sound too anti-Paul before. I am, and was, a big fan of his. I just believe that HBO should use its resources to make great fights and that this is NOT a great fight. It's a weak fight at best. It belongs on espn or as an off-tv undercard.

    Does everyone know that Paul Williams turned down Pawel Wolak, Deandre Latimore, and Sergiy Dzinziruk as opponents? One thing for sure, after his KO loss to Sergio, he definitely isn't "the most feared man on the planet" anymore. Not when you turn down Pawel Wolak and Deandre Latimore.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    This would be cool as a co-event on the undercard but as a main event it's pretty bad unless they paid absolute peanuts for it.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I'm not going to state I'm not excited about seeing Paul Williams back in action because I am. I didn't mean to sound too anti-Paul before. I am, and was, a big fan of his. I just believe that HBO should use its resources to make great fights and that this is NOT a great fight. It's a weak fight at best. It belongs on espn or as an off-tv undercard.

    Does everyone know that Paul Williams turned down Pawel Wolak, Deandre Latimore, and Sergiy Dzinziruk as opponents? One thing for sure, after his KO loss to Sergio, he definitely isn't "the most feared man on the planet" anymore. Not when you turn down Pawel Wolak and Deandre Latimore.

    Wow. I didn't know that. But out of the 3 opponents you name, Dzinziruk is the only opponent worth the risk. He's a champion and fought like a champion against Martinez. But, I guess Paul and his team didn't want to chance a career loss. The other two, I will favor Paul winning. The crazy thing is, if Paul is really asking for a 3rd fight against Martinez, why would he turn down anyone else?

    BTW, IMO, this is a good fight for Paul Williams. Dude just beat a fighter in Kirkland in which was proclaimed as being a top contender and treat to any of the champions at 154. So if Paul can defeat him, his ranking will raise if not his stock. And then maybe one more fight before considering one of the champion. My vote will be Vanes (something).

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    Default Re: Paul Williams back July 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I'm not going to state I'm not excited about seeing Paul Williams back in action because I am. I didn't mean to sound too anti-Paul before. I am, and was, a big fan of his. I just believe that HBO should use its resources to make great fights and that this is NOT a great fight. It's a weak fight at best. It belongs on espn or as an off-tv undercard.

    Does everyone know that Paul Williams turned down Pawel Wolak, Deandre Latimore, and Sergiy Dzinziruk as opponents? One thing for sure, after his KO loss to Sergio, he definitely isn't "the most feared man on the planet" anymore. Not when you turn down Pawel Wolak and Deandre Latimore.
    Lol, it's because of the money..... you make it seem like he was ducking them because he was scared of them or something. Yeah he ducked them to fight Cintron, and Martinez...lol.

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