Manny Gets Away With It And You Continue To Act Blind

[fan johnny]

Joey, may I ask the following? Why the abusive language towards those who disagree with you? Why must they be Pactards or willfully blind etc?

Why is it unreasonable to take the following facts

1) Manny has never failed, nor failed to take a required drug test
2) Other fighters have been caught with the current tests
3) Other fighters, notably Shane Mosely have beaten the current tests
4) NSAC (or their equivalents in other states) govern this issue according to their best lights
5) WADA's HGH test has caught a single person out of many thousands tested
6) WADA never caught Marion Jones (among others) and is likely ineffective
7) Manny has accomplished nothing of meaning that hasn't been done before in eras before steroids
and a belief that many world class athletes are doping

And conclude the following.
1) Manny has followed the rules
2) There is no reason Manny should be singled out
3) That the testing process should be changed sport-wide
4) That is rightly the responsibility of NSAC and their equivalents
5) That it is unjust to single out a specific fighter without evidence
6) That passing WADA tests in no way proves someone is clean (see Marion Jones)
7) There is a possibility Manny is doping

This represents my view and would be the same if the man in question were anyone else who had followed the rules.

The REAL issue at hand is NOT Manny being tested, it is the reprehensible behavior of those willing to make such allegations without a shred of evidence. THOSE are the people who ought to be ashamed.

The same people that sell the tests to WADA and the Olympic committee have suggested that there is nothing wrong with the tests and perhaps the reason they haven't caught the athletes is that they don't want to.

[marbleheadmaui]

Joey, may I ask the following? Why the abusive language towards those who disagree with you? Why must they be Pactards or willfully blind etc?

Why is it unreasonable to take the following facts

1) Manny has never failed, nor failed to take a required drug test
2) Other fighters have been caught with the current tests
3) Other fighters, notably Shane Mosely have beaten the current tests
4) NSAC (or their equivalents in other states) govern this issue according to their best lights
5) WADA's HGH test has caught a single person out of many thousands tested
6) WADA never caught Marion Jones (among others) and is likely ineffective
7) Manny has accomplished nothing of meaning that hasn't been done before in eras before steroids
and a belief that many world class athletes are doping

And conclude the following.
1) Manny has followed the rules
2) There is no reason Manny should be singled out
3) That the testing process should be changed sport-wide
4) That is rightly the responsibility of NSAC and their equivalents
5) That it is unjust to single out a specific fighter without evidence
6) That passing WADA tests in no way proves someone is clean (see Marion Jones)
7) There is a possibility Manny is doping

This represents my view and would be the same if the man in question were anyone else who had followed the rules.

The REAL issue at hand is NOT Manny being tested, it is the reprehensible behavior of those willing to make such allegations without a shred of evidence. THOSE are the people who ought to be ashamed.

The same people that sell the tests to WADA and the Olympic committee have suggested that there is nothing wrong with the tests and perhaps the reason they haven't caught the athletes is that they don't want to.

Huh. I hadn't heard that one. But it's pretty clear that the governing bodies have, in the past (yes, I'm talking about YOU Carl Lewis), let saome things, shall we say slide? Hmmmmm

[captainanddew]

When the level of evidence against someone is:
1-He's beating bigger fighters
2-He is really fast
3-He has good power
4-He's just really good

then you don't have any evidence. And that is about all we have gotten out of those throwing allegations in Pac's direction.

By the way, when is Teddy Atlas going to get fired for his on air claims that he had inside information (via emails if I remember correctly). Teddy Atlas-what a scumbag when it comes to this situation. No on air admission that he was wrong and his sources were as unreliable as can be.

And the same people who say Pac is on PEDs then go through and say everyone he fought was shitty.