*Hypothetical*Bare Knuckle Fight

[Youngblood]

BigSkinny,

I have a low tolerance for stupid. Which probably is a bad thing for me. So, yes, I do consider the consequences. But ultimately just don't care if I feel justified. The strange part about being able to take care of yourself on the streets, is that where you'd think people would want to avoid such a deal with you...they instead feel the need to try and step up their game. Stupid is the only word I have to describe it. I got tired of trying to be cordial about the whole process of talking them out of it etc and decided to give em what they ask for... It's quite a sight to see the look of a person getting their face smashed in, much to their surprise in spite of all they're begging for it.

[Master]

I punched a guy in the face and my knuckle and writs hurt all night long, I was in some series pain. it was like punching a wall. I would not recommend it.

[BigSkinny87]

Nor do I favor stupidity myself. Alcohol has it's own way of working itself into the picture, add to a large sum of money owed legitimately but said individual, but with no cooperation...I lost it. It was only immediately after that reality set in and I realized I was in deep shit.

Now I go through extra precautions to avoid any involuntary acts of being a dumbass, so far 60% success rate!

[Youngblood]

don't mind my comments last night lol was in a pissy mood.

Honestly, it's almost always a bad idea to resort to fighting outside of a ring for so many obvious reasons. So I'm not trying to make it seem ok. I suppose what it is, is that we all having our snapping points. And simply being able to go duke it out often might be a good way to resolves things that otherwise won't get resolved (both parties willing that is.)

The prob. lays in how it is viewed where you live. By the courts mostly. And having some trained skills on your behalf tends to put the burden of reasonable force proof and that sort of deal on you. Just try to decide how hard to hit someone when you are squaring up. A tough thing to do. And then know just when to stop? Again, easier said then done.

I live in a fairly violent place, and have done more then my fair share of turning the other cheek. I guess sometimes it just gets to you.

[Gray Lion]

First thing you need to be aware of is that there is a hell of a difference between a street fighter, and a boxer. There are no rules. Expect a sucker punch if your attention is diverted. Next, you have to know that you stand a good chance of busting up your knuckles and breaking bones in your hand pounding against a skull or hitting a belt buckle. You also have to know that sometimes, if the guy your fighting is losing, his "friends' will be prone to jump in and give him a hand. In my younger days, I got in street fights, bar fights and alley fights with my cousin protecting my back. You also run the risk of the loser pulling some type of weapon or device.
First rule of street fighting is not get sucked into a fight, If you have no option then you fight hard, fast and strong to get it over with quick. Use every dirty blow you can. Use the palms, edge of hand, and 1st three knuckles if you are bare fisted.

All that being said, I will also add that I went out of my way to ignore idiots, loud mouths, and people trying to goad me into a fight....but there was a mental line I drew and if the guy crossed over it...the fight was on.

In the work place, if you have a bully, or someone pushing you. Stand up and challenge him to meet you at a gym, a garage, someplace private and away from the public, where neutral people selected will control it from getting out of hand. Challenge him in front of others to either put up or back down. If he just runs his mouth after that...he is branded a coward and a loser. If he accepts, even if you lose..make sure you hurt him where he wants no more...you will have his respect.

To this day, I carry a set of gel pack knuckle gloves in my back pocket because people are getting more rude and violent, and if I have to defend myself, I don't intend to spend time in the ER with my hands in ice packs. Have never had to use them. In a pinch, a roll of coins wrapped in tape, or a small piece of pipe inside your fist will do the job. I knew one guy that wrapped his belt around the knuckles of his strong arm.. a lot ibetter then an empty fist and they are not considered a weapon...you were going to the bank, or looking for a length of pipe for a plumbing project if asked.

[Master]

Everything you say is true, but do not carry anything. If you see a fight just get out of there. If you have to fight then get into it and you can always pick something up around you if you have to. I would never put something in my hand when I punch, you would break it even more. If I was desperate I would aim for the groin, eyes and throat.

[Gray Lion]

I understand what you are saying. Like I said...Avoid getting sucked into a fight. But in street fighting, if you get to the point that YOU have to "pick up something around you", then you are in a world of hurt, because you most like will not find anything--(no time out's remember) or you will grab up something that could be lethal. As far as breaking your hand worse with something in it.....the object in a street fight is to get in and put it down as fast and hard as you can...using every dirty punch you can throw. Take a simple test... have someone stand behind and hold a light bag. With just your fist hit as hard as you can...then wrap your fist around a roll of quarters and hit it again...yeah, it hurts, but ask the guy behind the bag which was harder. Yes, your fist is going to get hurt in a bare knuckles fight..that's why I carry my gel padded knuckle gloves....just old habit. Oh Yeah, one other lesson. If you are in a bar or place where someone is trying to push you into a fight, never ever turn your back and try to walk away. Move backwards slowly keeping your eyes on him. If you turn your back...thats when he will throw the sucker punch.