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    Default Re: Bernard is historically greater than Manny or Floyd

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    Manny is the tougher call IMO (and full disclosure I'm a big fan of Manny and Bernard, Floyd not so much).

    But I'm leaning towards Hopkins over both. Definitely over Floyd. The weight jump is the big advantage for Manny.

    I do think Bernard has passed Roy.
    Yeah Floyds career has really gone out like a wet match lately, unless he fights Manny his ending will leave a sour taste I think.

    Hopkins definitely has done something amazing for an old guy, but in absolute sense I'm not sure beating Pascal by razor thin decision is equal to just literally battering and dominating guys like Cotto, Margarito and Mosley that Manny has done lately.

    B Hop is winning some and losing some against very good opposition, Manny is beating the snot out of his, and way above his natural fighting weight. That to me is more impressive as no other fighter in history has done that.
    The important thing to remember is that Hopkins is 46. I bet Manny isn't doing what Hopkins is doing at 46. And I hate this talk of Manny fighting outside of his weight class. The guy weighs in above 140, the guy IS a WW. Forget all this "if he boiled down he could make 135 easy" talk, we simply don't know that, but what we do know is that Manny weighs in at WW and fights other WW's.

    As for the greatness thing, they are all pretty great. I don't know which is greater, but Floyd's recent lack of anything does leave a sour taste.
    Wait, you're the same guy who wants manny to fight marquez at 135 because you think it makes it a fair fight.

    Am I missing something here

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    Default Re: Bernard is historically greater than Manny or Floyd

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    Manny is the tougher call IMO (and full disclosure I'm a big fan of Manny and Bernard, Floyd not so much).

    But I'm leaning towards Hopkins over both. Definitely over Floyd. The weight jump is the big advantage for Manny.

    I do think Bernard has passed Roy.
    Yeah Floyds career has really gone out like a wet match lately, unless he fights Manny his ending will leave a sour taste I think.

    Hopkins definitely has done something amazing for an old guy, but in absolute sense I'm not sure beating Pascal by razor thin decision is equal to just literally battering and dominating guys like Cotto, Margarito and Mosley that Manny has done lately.

    B Hop is winning some and losing some against very good opposition, Manny is beating the snot out of his, and way above his natural fighting weight. That to me is more impressive as no other fighter in history has done that.
    The important thing to remember is that Hopkins is 46. I bet Manny isn't doing what Hopkins is doing at 46. And I hate this talk of Manny fighting outside of his weight class. The guy weighs in above 140, the guy IS a WW. Forget all this "if he boiled down he could make 135 easy" talk, we simply don't know that, but what we do know is that Manny weighs in at WW and fights other WW's.

    As for the greatness thing, they are all pretty great. I don't know which is greater, but Floyd's recent lack of anything does leave a sour taste.
    Wait, you're the same guy who wants manny to fight marquez at 135 because you think it makes it a fair fight.

    Am I missing something here
    Yes, you appear to have missed that Miles really doesn't like Pacquiao & will have a go at him regardless

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