Bernard is historically greater than Manny or Floyd

[Mr140]

I for the life of me still do not understand the huge difference in Manny and Folydes resumes i mean they are pretty close Manny holds lineal in only one more division then Floyde. Manyy has a few better wins then Floyde but he also lost more then him as well i think Floyde being undefeated equals them out.

[Pavlik]

I for the life of me still do not understand the huge difference in Manny and Folydes resumes i mean they are pretty close Manny holds lineal in only one more division then Floyde. Manyy has a few better wins then Floyde but he also lost more then him as well i think Floyde being undefeated equals them out.

fair enough

[Mr140]

And since were tearing down resumes i guess you could say Pac was Koed by nobodies and then out boxed by a shot Morales who was coming off loses in every time they fought. Lost both the Jmm fights and then went on to beat a weight drain Oscar and hatton both beat by Floyde already. Then went on to defeat a Beat up Cotto, a Beat up Margrito, punching bag in Clotty, and old as fuck Mosley who had not won a fight in over a year. If i had to rank them now i go Pac and Floyde tied then Hopkins after.

[Mr140]

Also with the weight class Manny moved up lets be real here only reason it is 10 is because he was 16 to start with and lower weight classes change in a few pounds. To me Evander Holyfeild moving form 176 to start with and then going on to become one of the greatest heavies of all time is on par with Manny. So if one weight divsion in the higher weights is equal to 10 below i think there are to many divisions. Also Manny is a top 20 i think so don't think i rank him low also then Floyde is a top 20 as well.

[Pavlik]

Also with the weight class Manny moved up lets be real here only reason it is 10 is because he was 16 to start with and lower weight classes change in a few pounds. To me Evander Holyfeild moving form 176 to start with and then going on to become one of the greatest heavies of all time is on par with Manny. So if one weight divsion in the higher weights is equal to 10 below i think there are to many divisions. Also Manny is a top 20 i think so don't think i rank him low also then Floyde is a top 20 as well.

any complaints on the weightclass should be issued on the four widely-regarded sanctioning bodies (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO i think.

and with Pac's accomplishments talk to the BWAA whom gave Pac the boxer of the decade award.

[Pavlik]

And since were tearing down resumes i guess you could say Pac was Koed by nobodies and then out boxed by a shot Morales who was coming off loses in every time they fought. Lost both the Jmm fights and then went on to beat a weight drain Oscar and hatton both beat by Floyde already. Then went on to defeat a Beat up Cotto, a Beat up Margrito, punching bag in Clotty, and old as fuck Mosley who had not won a fight in over a year. If i had to rank them now i go Pac and Floyde tied then Hopkins after.

now that's straightforward degrading.
1. Pac's ko losses are ages ago if rematched he can oblitrerate both foes in a round.
2. the shot Morales almost beat a prime Maidana.
3. Jmm should've lost the first fight if it werent for judging error. the second fight was close, their rubber match will tell the truth.
4. the weight drained oscar issued the challenge not pac.
5. Hatton got ktfo quicker by a smaller man.
6. Cotto got back to back kayo wins after losing to Pac and is currently top 10 p4p.
7. Margarito despite having lost to mosley stll outweighed pac by 17 lbs come fight night and got his orbital bone fucked.
8. clottey was a coward not pacs fault.
9. mosley dropped by the smaller man still a feat by itself.

Floyd on the other hand pushes for unrequired drugtesting to fight Pac as if he is fighting a naturally bigger man in Manny.

[Mr140]

Manny was like 20 years old and lineal champ when he got knocked out by a nobody. As for Eric Madiana not that great he has on good win and that win may not turn out to be that great. As for my post it was not ment to be debated on just tearing down a resume.

[Pavlik]

Manny was like 20 years old and lineal champ when he got knocked out by a nobody. As for Eric Madiana not that great he has on good win and that win may not turn out to be that great.

i'll quote bhop, anybody can be knocked out or knocked down its what happens next that counts. and what happened next for Pac was a legendary career that alot of people envy.

[Mr140]

Look all i am saying is if there is fucking 10 weight classes for 40 pounds then that is to many weight classes don't you think. As for Margarito having 17 pounds well shit i mean Holyfeild fought and beat guys weighing 30 pounds more then him sometimes think lower weights classes get more credit in pound for pound because there to many lower weight classes. I mean the weight difference in a heavyweight fight sometimes is more weight then the whole 10 weight class i just mention think it is just silly.

[Pavlik]

Look all i am saying is if there is fucking 10 weight classes for 40 pounds then that is to many weight classes don't you think. As for Margarito having 17 pounds well shit i mean Holyfeild fought and beat guys weighing 30 pounds more then him sometimes think lower weights classes get more credit in pound for pound because there to many lower weight classes. I mean the weight difference in a heavyweight fight sometimes is more weight then the whole 10 weight class i just mention think it is just silly.