WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa!

Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything. The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.

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My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.

If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?

Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.

[Gandalf]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa!

Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything. The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.

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My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.

If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?

Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.

Any fighter who refuses a drugs test is open to blame. Pac has never agreed to full and open testing either. I don't see where you have recieved your own view from. Has Manny signed a contract agreeing these things? If so, show it.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?

It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted.

You think you're the only one who believes in drug testing for all top level fighters? I believe in drug testing for ALL FIGHTERS, not just top level. That isn't even the argument in here.

I am not a Pachugger. I haven't created any thread to declare how great he is nor complemented him for any supernatural powers. I have criticized him a number of times. But as a Pacfan I will defend him from any false and malicious accusations.

Whereas you are the one who hangs on to the testicles of the pachaters in this forum. I haven't seen you comment on what happened in the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation. Did you suddenly developed an amnesia because that was favorable to Manny?

[Gandalf]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?

It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted.

You think you're the only one who believes in drug testing for all top level fighters? I believe in drug testing for ALL FIGHTERS, not just top level. That isn't even the argument in here.

I am not a Pachugger. I haven't created any thread nor complemented him for any supernatural powers. I have criticized him a number of times. But I will defend him for any false and malicious accusations.

Whereas you are the one who hangs on to the testicles of the pachaters in this forum. I haven't seen you comment on what happened in the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation. Did you suddenly developed an amnesia because that was favorable to Manny?

Look forum troll/forum banned guy- I made my points on that too. Check the post history. It's all there.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa!

Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything. The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.

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My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.

If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?

Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.

Any fighter who refuses a drugs test is open to blame. Pac has never agreed to full and open testing either. I don't see where you have recieved your own view from. Has Manny signed a contract agreeing these things? If so, show it.

You do share the same illogical thinking as hornfinger. Are you two clones or something?

You haven't read my previous post, have you? I already said that it's reasonable to blame Manny in the first negotiation because he had the burden of proof. Now that he already agreed to it, you still blame him. And how can there be a contract signing if the opponent did not want to fight?

It appears that you are not content with the drug testing that Manny agreed to in the second negotiation. But it would have been alright with you if Manny had agreed to it in the first negotiation. THOSE TWO ARE THE SAME DRUG TEST!!! Why would the type of test matter if Manny agreed to it in the second, third or tenth negotiation?

[:::PSL:::]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa!

Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything. The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.

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My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.

If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?

Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.

Any fighter who refuses a drugs test is open to blame. Pac has never agreed to full and open testing either. I don't see where you have recieved your own view from. Has Manny signed a contract agreeing these things? If so, show it.

You do share the same illogical thinking as hornfinger. Are you two clones or something?

You haven't read my previous post, have you? I already said that it's reasonable to blame Manny in the second negotiation because he had the burden of proof. Now that he already agreed to it, you still blame him. And how can there be a contract signing if the opponent did not want to fight?

It appears that you are not content with the drug testing that Manny agreed to in the second negotiation. But it would have been alright with you if Manny had agreed to it in the first negotiation. THOSE TWO WERE THE SAME!!! Why would it matter if Manny agreed to it in the second, third or tenth negotiation?

Fukk Miley. He's a hater.

He's just making poor attempts to at least justify the losses of his favorite fighters. He's still having nightmares on how Pac destroyed them.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.

This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)

First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.

How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?

It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted.

You think you're the only one who believes in drug testing for all top level fighters? I believe in drug testing for ALL FIGHTERS, not just top level. That isn't even the argument in here.

I am not a Pachugger. I haven't created any thread nor complemented him for any supernatural powers. I have criticized him a number of times. But I will defend him for any false and malicious accusations.

Whereas you are the one who hangs on to the testicles of the pachaters in this forum. I haven't seen you comment on what happened in the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation. Did you suddenly developed an amnesia because that was favorable to Manny?

Look forum troll/forum banned guy- I made my points on that too. Check the post history. It's all there.

Do you think I'm the only one who would be reading this? Most of the readers here (especially non-members) would not even check your post history so they're at a lost as well as to what those points are. Whereas I needed to repeat myself numerous times because I believe in the points that I'm making.

There was no point in you butting in because you have the same argument as hornfinger. Nothing new.

And accusing me of being a banned former poster. Sorry to disappoint you but you're wrong. It reminds me of those who throws out accusations without any proof. As they say, "Birds of the same feathers flock together.".

[Gandalf]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

[fan johnny]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

Your reply about integrity is a complete oxymoron. The reason than man has a problem with his political position is because of his religious integrity and not because he lacks it. The problem has 'never' been about not taking the tests but rather about a cut off date.

[Gandalf]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

Your reply about integrity is a complete oxymoron. The reason than man has a problem with his political position is because of his religious integrity and not because he lacks it. The problem has 'never' been about not taking the tests but rather about a cut off date.

Breeding people into poverty is idiocy, a man should have more sense than to combine religion with politics. His thinking is warped and illogical. He initially turned down a fight because he was unable to agree to full and comprehensive blood testing. The man is a hoax. He can get tattoo's carved all over the place and yet is scared of needles and random testing.

Manny Pac is well suited to political life. Deception and fraud are welcome bedfellows.

Utter nonsense.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.

And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?

Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?

[Gandalf]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.

And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?

Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?

I make the point about breeding people into poverty because it shows the kind of logic and stupidity we are dealing with. Only a fool wishes his country people a life of eternal poverty and only a fool refuses a mega fight because of a drugs test. Furthermore the ridiculous attempts at singing show that the man is pure ego. He has no talent whatsoever and yet wants to put this stuff out. Only an egotistical lunatic would turn down a mega fight because of a fear of needles.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.

And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?

Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?

I make the point about breeding people into poverty because it shows the kind of logic and stupidity we are dealing with. Only a fool wishes his country people a life of eternal poverty and only a fool refuses a mega fight because of a drugs test. Furthermore the ridiculous attempts at singing show that the man is pure ego. He has no talent whatsoever and yet wants to put this stuff out. Only an egotistical lunatic would turn down a mega fight because of a fear of needles.

Let's keep his political views and his singing out of this.

You keep going on and on about him turning down the megafight. What did you expect Pacquiao to do in that second negotiation, isn't it for him to accept the drug test demand? He already did that so what still is your problem?

It's already late here so we'll have to continue this tomorrow. Don't take this personally, it's just an exchange of two conflicting ideas.

[Gandalf]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.

And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?

Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?

I make the point about breeding people into poverty because it shows the kind of logic and stupidity we are dealing with. Only a fool wishes his country people a life of eternal poverty and only a fool refuses a mega fight because of a drugs test. Furthermore the ridiculous attempts at singing show that the man is pure ego. He has no talent whatsoever and yet wants to put this stuff out. Only an egotistical lunatic would turn down a mega fight because of a fear of needles.

Let's keep his political views and his singing out of this.

You keep going on and on about him turning down the megafight. What did you expect Pacquiao to do in that second negotiation, isn't it for him to accept the drug test demand? He already did that so what still is your problem?

And let's not forget the extra marital affairs and love child. "I just want what is best for my people". Sure you do, you just want to impregnate them all! Haha, what a sleazeball.

The fact that he turned it down first time out is what bugs me. What kind of man does that? An egotistical fool, that is who.

To counter that Floyd is an eogtistical fool too, but the man never refused a drugs test.

[fan johnny]

You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.

The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.

Your reply about integrity is a complete oxymoron. The reason than man has a problem with his political position is because of his religious integrity and not because he lacks it. The problem has 'never' been about not taking the tests but rather about a cut off date.

Breeding people into poverty is idiocy, a man should have more sense than to combine religion with politics. His thinking is warped and illogical. He initially turned down a fight because he was unable to agree to full and comprehensive blood testing. The man is a hoax. He can get tattoo's carved all over the place and yet is scared of needles and random testing.

Manny Pac is well suited to political life. Deception and fraud are welcome bedfellows.

Utter nonsense.

What the fuk are you talking out of the side of your mouth for? It's a simple concept to understand. Promoting natural family planning in favor of he believes is God's design over mans designs in contraceptives. You are the one warping the message. The same as your twisting facts. Pac has taken the tests and is willing to take the tests. You don't even know what the fuk is a "comprehensive test", same as Hornifinger. Pac never claimed to be afraid of needles. That is a BS accusation started by the Mayweathers. What he concerned about is the affect of blood being drawn so close to the fight that it weakens him. This is because blood was drawn in the first fight against Morales just before the fight and he said it weakened him.